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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

>>> exactly... all will shift to the middle east...

Well, I sort of misread the thread title question.

If the question is where are we (all nations) as in a timeline, that I think is the answer... just before Ezek 38 where Russia and Iran get PWNED by God for trying to invade Israel.

If the question is where is America in prophesy,
the answer is NOWHERE!


14 posted on 04/22/2010 7:43:48 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

I also believe it will be before Ez 38,39. I think we are done in in Rev 6:1-8. We will be a casality of the 4 Horsemen. 1/4 the worlds population destroyed!..Shazam!! We have to be in that carnage.


25 posted on 04/22/2010 8:02:22 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Safrguns
If the question is where is America in prophesy, the answer is NOWHERE!

Bible prophesy isn't about the US. IF it is about ANY nation, its strictly Israel. God has made a covenant with Israel alone. Nowhere is there any indication that there is any other country that aids Israel.

In fact, for another country to share glory with Israel, goes against all God has done or all he stands for.

God alone will protect Israel. He will make it known that HE alone is Israels protector and provider. And does not need aid from any other places. He does not share glory.

In the end, EVERY nation will turn on Israel, and by attacking Israel they will be attacking God.

Christians need to realize our "allegiance" isn't to any country or any leader. Our allegiance is to God alone.

God blessed this nation for a season, but whether now or the future, that blessing will end. That blessing is for Israel alone.

31 posted on 04/22/2010 8:11:44 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Safrguns
I offer the following in hopes that it provides answers to some of the questions posted. The answer to the question of the US being mentioned in the "End of Days' is found in the Torah, the Zohar, Midrash, Gemorah, and of course, in the writings of the Holy Niviim- the ancient Jewish prophets. You need to read Hebrew to find it, and fully understand the original writings. And, there is just so much of it, it requires an entire web site to post it all, and offer accurate translations from the original Hebrew scripture. However there are a few sites that do: Here are a few: http://yeranenyaakov.blogspot.com/2006/06/end-of-days-where-are- we-part-1-of-3.html http://www.redemption5768.com It may amaze many of you that America is indeed mentioned. It is the nation of "Edom" and Washington DC is "Romi, or Rome". And, if you look back into US history, you will find that the area of Maryland we now know as Washington DC, was indeed named "Rome." Edom betrays Israel, and as a result G-D destroys Edom leaving it desolate and uninhabitable. Obama is referred to as the Armilus. His name is very clearly given in code, as is his evil purpose, in Gematria, one of the coded languages of the Torah- Zohar. Here is a link where you will find these translations: http://www.redemption5768.com/ARTICLE1.pdf These portions are from the Zohar the innermost "center" or Rose, of the Torah) It was written before Christianity and Islam existed, making it all the more shocking to those not familiar with these scriptures. Zohar I, Va'era 32a: "

In the future the children of Yishmael will stir great wars in the world. And the children of Edom will gather against them, and make war with them, one on the sea, and one on the land, and one by Jerusalem; and each one will prevail over the other but the Holy Land will not fall to the hands of Edom.

 At the same time, a nation from the end of the world will be awakened against wicked Romi. And it will make war against her for three months, and many nations will gather there, and they will fall by her hand, until all the children of Edom will gather against her from all corners of the earth. And then G-d will awaken Himself against them, as it says, a "a sacrificial slaughter for the Lord in Batzra", and it says, "to shake the corners of the Land". 


Zohar HaKadosh: "
A nation will arise from one end of the world against the wicked Romi and will war against them for 3 months. Other nations will join the war and will fall into their hands, till all Edom will unite against this nation. Then HKB"H will 'arise' against them, as it says, A gigantic massacre in the land of Edom." Zohar III Shalach Lecha 166a: 

 "The King of Persia will rule and will conquer many kingdoms. He will rule over the Holy Land for twelve months. He will rule and kill many and afterwards the King (of Persia) will fall and the high holy ones (Israel) will receive the kingship." 

56 posted on 04/23/2010 12:34:09 AM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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