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To: blue-duncan; kosta50; Forest Keeper
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that naturewill reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 10Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

kosta50, Is there someone else from whom we reap eternal life besides God?

2,448 posted on 04/27/2010 8:43:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr
Galatians 6:8...kosta50, Is there someone else from whom we reap eternal life besides God?

Paul explicitly calls only the Father God (cf 1 Cor 8:6, 11:3, etc.). The Christ and the Spirit are of God but they are never called God by Paul. Only the Father is. He also makes it very clear that Christ is not equal to the Father—"the head of Christ is God" says Paul.

According to Paul, Christ is our Lord but not equal to God; he is God's perefect creation, the first creature made in the image of God (Col 1:15), and for Paul the Spirit is the power of God (just as in Judaism), but never referred to as our Lord.

This is clearly in contradistinction with the Nicean-Costantinopolean credal Trinity of the Church which states that the Spirit is the Lord and that he is the giver of life.

Paul (Rom 8:2) also says the Spirit gives life but only through Christ, obviously indicaitng that the Spirit alone cannot give life, but only acting on behalf of someone else.

Paul also unfailingly states that God raised Christ, not that Christ, being God, raised hismelf, which is a significant distinction of the suboridnaitonalist theology.

The only NT source which suggests that Christ didn't need asisstance is in John 2:19-21, which was incorprated into the Creed in contradisticntion to Paul: the Creed states "he rose on the third day" rather than "was raised..."

The entire New Testament teaches suboridinatonist Trinity. This is what the Church Fathers unfailingly taught until the 4th century.

You will also notice that the Holy Ghost is sent and given, and that he does things through God or through Christ. There is also a disticntion made between the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.

2,479 posted on 04/28/2010 1:16:00 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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