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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Alex Murphy; Gamecock
Tell me, what are the consequences of a priest living with unresolved, habitual sin in his life? Does that not affect the validity of the sacraments which he performs. I recall reading somewhere that priests are expected to keep short accounts with God and that if they have sin in their lives, that any sacraments they perform, like baptism and confirmation, etc, are rendered invalid.

Interestingly, according to Father Kenneth Baker in this thread, the sins of the priest do not invalidate the mass.

What does supposedly invalidate the mass, however, is using donuts or raisin bread for flour wafers, or by invoking a wrong word here or there...

"...A Mass can be invalid for a number of reasons (we presuppose that the priest has been validly ordained): 1) because of a defect in the matter, for example, using sweet rolls instead of bread made only from wheat flour and water; 2) because of a defect in the form, for example, changing the words “This is my body” or “This is the cup of my blood” into something else; 3) because the priest positively excludes the intention to do what the Church does in offering Mass..."

And apparently if the priest is thinking of baseball and not Jesus Christ, the mass is likewise invalid, per #3.

Strange, isn't it? To think the sacrifice Jesus Christ suffered on the cross can be made "invalid" by men. lol. Of course, this is the same Father Baker who reminded us of Rome's errant theology when he noted -- "simply stated, the Catholic priest is another Christ. Through his ordination he has been granted the amazing gift of being a channel of divine grace for the eternal salvation of those he come into contact with—both in his official ministry and in his personal life."

Get that? "Another Christ," not just in their jobs, also in their "personal lives" as well.

And they wonder how the perversion of this church occurs.

2,333 posted on 04/27/2010 12:58:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The bible says that God’s judgment will start with the church and its pastors. You have to wonder what these guys were thinking, if they even believed in God.


2,337 posted on 04/27/2010 1:09:20 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Strange, isn't it? To think the sacrifice Jesus Christ suffered on the cross can be made "invalid" by men. lol. Of course, this is the same Father Baker who reminded us of Rome's errant theology when he noted -- "simply stated, the Catholic priest is another Christ. Through his ordination he has been granted the amazing gift of being a channel of divine grace for the eternal salvation of those he come into contact with—both in his official ministry and in his personal life."

1 Timothy 2:5-6 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.

ONE mediator.

But it's Paul, you know.......

2,338 posted on 04/27/2010 1:12:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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