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Nifonging the Catholic Church
me ^ | April 18, 2010 | vanity

Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne

I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.

Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.

I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!

Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!

Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!

What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?

Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?

Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: denialnotrivernegypt; excuses; falseaccusations; koolaidcatholics; moralrot; moredeflection; nifong
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To: Running On Empty

Wonderful. May your day be blessed.


2,541 posted on 04/28/2010 8:32:37 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Gamecock; Judith Anne; jessduntno; Natural Law; Alex Murphy; All
Making a thread "about" an individual poster is indeed "making it personal" under the Religion Forum guideliens.

However, when the article is itself a vanity the author of the article should expect to be challenged personally. But that is not a carte blanche to pile onto the Freeper-author for just any old reason.

As an example, we have a Freeper (evidently Protestant) who posts his prophecies by speaking for God in the first person. His credibility was vigorously challenged on thread as one might expect.

My ruling was that, unless the article could be legitimately classified as "caucus" or "prayer" or "devotional" - he must suffer those challenges even though they were obviously "making it personal" - because he was the author of the article itself.

Even-handedness demands that I allow similar latitude on this thread which I have done, for instance, by not reigning in the sidebar challenging the author's credibility using her statements concerning Paul's credibility.

That said, I expect all of the posters here to stay on the theological issues and keep any personal challenges narrowly to the author's credibility to advance a theological issue such as would be applicable to a vanity article posted on the Religion Forum.

In other words, do NOT bring up the author's posting history unless it is specifically relevant to a theological issue or the author's credibility to advance the vanity article.

2,542 posted on 04/28/2010 8:32:50 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; metmom; Natural Law

Are you saying that the entire Bible is just a bunch of dictation? If that is the case why has authorship of Books even been an issue.


2,543 posted on 04/28/2010 8:33:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mad Dawg

AGREED.

AGREED.

And, humor is great at piercing prissy-ness.

LUB


2,544 posted on 04/28/2010 8:35:33 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

Forgot to ping you to 2540.


2,545 posted on 04/28/2010 8:36:11 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Religion Moderator
"I think it’s extremely unreasonable for any Papist"

The term "Papist as defined by the American Heritage Dictionary is:

NOUN: Offensive Used as a disparaging term for a Roman Catholic"

I am objecting to the continued use and tolerance of this word and other offensive terms for Catholics such as "RC" on these Religion Forum threads particularly with the precedent of similar offensive descriptors of non-Catholics being removed along with the entire post containing them.

Shouldn't all participants have the same protections or the same thick skin?

2,546 posted on 04/28/2010 8:37:47 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Running On Empty; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

LOL.

GREAT QUESTION.

In my . . . esteemed expert opinion on finger frothing . . .

were it UNwarranted, it would have probably been a grand example.

However, points have to be taken off because it was soooooo warranted by what it was responding to.

Therefore, without my calculator and micrometer out, I’d have to guess as to whether it would rise to the level of true finger frothing, or not.

I’d guess . . . not . . . by a hair.


2,547 posted on 04/28/2010 8:38:53 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: metmom

Quite so and fortunately a variety of writers provide each provide a part of the whole.


2,548 posted on 04/28/2010 8:39:18 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Running On Empty

Hmm - looking back at that post I see I left out a couple of words. It should have said “agree or disagree with on doctrinal points.”


2,549 posted on 04/28/2010 8:39:51 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Mad Dawg
"Just think of the possibilities if the DA in Durham had had another name..."

I knew a DA named Faulk.....it might have been more fitting.

2,550 posted on 04/28/2010 8:40:41 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
The only post I recall removing which used a pejorative to describe Protestants was removed for language, i.e. it incorporated a word describing a male sexual organ which is potty language not allowed on the Religion Forum.
2,551 posted on 04/28/2010 8:43:42 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; MarkBsnr

What about the consistent posting of Mark Bsnr as BSnr?

That’s okay?


2,552 posted on 04/28/2010 8:46:53 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

No, that is not ok. Point them out to me and I will remove them.


2,553 posted on 04/28/2010 8:48:10 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you.


2,554 posted on 04/28/2010 8:49:27 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Natural Law; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Awwwwwww

Perhaps Prottys could canvas some taxidermists to see if a collection could be taken up for the rabid cliques to gain some thicker skins.

Prottys have collectively and individually been called every foul thing in the book hereon from the beginning by Papists—and often a lot not in the book.

Goes with the territory.

Except for personally personhood harsh assaults, we usually hardly bat an eye or slow down over it.

It’s amazing how many Roman Catholics et al fail to realize that some of us Prottys haul out annoying terms primarily or only when the Papists get particularly obnoxious, prissy and assaultive.

stimulus followed by response

LOL.


2,555 posted on 04/28/2010 8:50:08 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Natural Law
I am objecting to the continued use and tolerance of this word and other offensive terms for Catholics such as "RC" on these Religion Forum threads...

Shouldn't all participants have the same protections or the same thick skin?

Free Republic participants are responsible for supplying their own skin. Participants incapable of growing a thick skin should consider ignoring “open” RF threads altogether, and restrict their reading and posting activities to threads labeled “caucus” “ecumenical” “prayer” or “devotional.”

2,556 posted on 04/28/2010 8:50:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: count-your-change
"In the book of Acts, chapter 9, Paul was given a specific message of what he was to preach so there was not a forgetting of the Gospel or any question of invalidating them."

Exactly! The letters of Paul were not written a priori. This is where both Luther and Calvin went wrong. They are meant ONLY to support, clarify, and reinforce the contents of the Synoptic Gospels. That alone was Paul's mission. They are not stand alone additions, revisions, extensions or new revelations and not to be used out of the context of the Synoptic Gospels.

2,557 posted on 04/28/2010 8:52:46 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Alex Murphy

INDEED.

WISELY AND MARVELOUSLY PUT.

THX.


2,558 posted on 04/28/2010 8:53:07 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy

But then, they’d not be able to have fun serving stinky dofu/tofu!


2,559 posted on 04/28/2010 8:54:21 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy

But then, they’d not be able to have fun serving stinky dofu/tofu!

And screaming bloody murder when opposing folks turned up their noses and declined with great fanfare.


2,560 posted on 04/28/2010 8:55:09 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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