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To: johngrace

Those were living saints, I would be glad to pray for you.. now.. When I leave this life I will be busy praising God


56 posted on 04/14/2010 5:44:53 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

In the article He establishes how they see us thus Hebrews 12:1{ “ we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses” Now heres we’re Catholic pray with Saints comes in Revalation 8:3-4 And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; [4] and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God. ALSO In Revelation 5:8, the “twenty-four elders” (usually regarded by commentators as dead human beings) “fell down before the Lamb . . . with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.” They appear to have other people’s prayers, to present to God. So the obvious question is: what are they doing with them? Why does Revelation present dead saints presenting the prayers of other saints to God?If they have them, it stands to reason as a rather straightforward deduction, that they heard the initial prayers as well, or at least were granted knowledge of them in some fashion, granted ultimately through the power of God. Revelation 8:3-4 is even more explicit. Rather than equate incense and prayers, it actually distinguishes between them, and presents the scenario that the prayers and incense are presented together:
And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; [4] and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God. The Twenty Four Elders are the spirits of people who passed on.


57 posted on 04/14/2010 7:12:52 AM PDT by johngrace
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