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To: wagglebee
"Matthew 18:19, "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven."

Notice the important clause "on earth." The people who pray together must be "on earth." This definitely rules out those who have left this earth.

When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, He never encourages the disciples to ask Abraham or Moses or Noah to pray for them. Asking the deceased to pray for us is unheard of in the Bible, and contradicts the teaching of the Bible."

In Rev 5:8 since WE are the saints whose prayers are mentioned this in no way supports praying to those who have passed on.

2 Corinthians 13:13
All the saints send their greetings.

Ephesians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints in Ephesus, the faithful in Christ Jesus

407 posted on 04/19/2010 8:41:22 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Manic_Episode; Natural Law; Judith Anne
Notice the important clause "on earth." The people who pray together must be "on earth." This definitely rules out those who have left this earth.

Matthew 18:19 is an instruction to the Church, it is not instructions on how to pray and even if it were it doesn't rule anything out.

Asking the deceased to pray for us is unheard of in the Bible, and contradicts the teaching of the Bible.

Are you denying that He gives eternal life?

In Rev 5:8 since WE are the saints whose prayers are mentioned this in no way supports praying to those who have passed on.

So, you believe you possess the authority to declare yourself a saint and at the same time you believe you can deny the ability of the saints in Heaven to pray? That's rather presumptuous isn't it?

408 posted on 04/19/2010 8:50:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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