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Anthropological Problems in the Book of Mormon
http://www.godandscience.org/cults/mormarch.html#3i1pT7S2ZHUk ^

Posted on 04/09/2010 7:57:20 PM PDT by truthfinder9

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To: Saundra Duffy

He wrote some of it. Other parts sound like they were written or taken from other people. Funny how similar the Book of Mormon sounds to the wild fiction tales of the era.


21 posted on 04/10/2010 7:51:48 AM PDT by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9

“Funny how similar the Book of Mormon sounds to the wild fiction tales of the era.”

Funny how similar the Book of Mormon sounds to the Bible. I used to stay stupid ignorant things about the Book of Mormon, too. Thankfully, I read the Book of Mormon for myself and experienced the presence of the Holy Ghost in its pages - just like when I read the Bible.


22 posted on 04/10/2010 9:22:25 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Enough already.

Amen Brutha.

23 posted on 04/10/2010 10:01:18 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: ejonesie22

massacres, golden scrolls, salt lake city. oh my. lol.


24 posted on 04/10/2010 10:04:21 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Saundra Duffy

Don’t know which Bible version or B of Mormon version you have, but mine are nothing alike. Bet you never read the myths that were written at the same time as the B of Mormon, did you?


25 posted on 04/11/2010 5:13:21 PM PDT by truthfinder9
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To: ejonesie22; Godzilla

PING


26 posted on 05/11/2010 2:04:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Buddygirl
Seeing as there are zero finds fro the BOM it is an easy thing for Judaism and Christianity to argue the point.

We see Rome, the Pyramids, we know where Jerusalem and Bethlehem are. They have even found the ruins of Herod's palace.

Not really a fair race, but the LDS choose to run it anyway...

27 posted on 05/11/2010 2:11:37 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Ooops,

Already had my fun here.


28 posted on 05/11/2010 2:13:19 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: ejonesie22

I thought it was a new one myself...

:)


29 posted on 05/11/2010 2:14:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: truthfinder9

There just isn’t enough popcorn for all these revelations about the Joseph Smith mythologies.


30 posted on 05/11/2010 2:16:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: 999replies; Buddygirl
You and I don't have a clue what is waiting to be discovered out there. Sounds like more Christian snobbery to me.

Oh really? The Americas have been closely examined and all existing pre-western archaeological sites - bar none - do not support the book of mormon story. It is no suprise that the Smithsonian Inst. has put it down in writing that there is no basis in fact to the mythology of the bom.

Mormons have sought long and hard to find evidence - which by all readings from the bom - should be abundant. But even mormons don't have a clue. Current arguement in mormondom is between the N. Am Theorists (championed by popular apologist Meldrum) and the Limited Geography Theory (championed by Sorenson). Do either have physical evidence - NO. Other mormons look to Baja California as the site of the bom saga. Other see the Malay Pennisula and even Africa as the place.

So I guess the hundreds of teams of archeologists, anthropologist, linguistic experts, dna researchers, et al, should turn their text books and papers in and work from the bom LOL.

Face it 999, even mormon apologist Michael Ash states "There is no official Book of Mormon geography" (Mormon Times, Monday, Feb. 15, 2010). Mormon archaeologist have dug themselves into a hole - they should realize that and stop digging.

31 posted on 05/11/2010 2:22:25 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
What I want to see is how Hebrew DNA will all of the sudden “appear” in native American bloodlines...

That would be amazing, but I would wonder why God would hide it for so long...

LOL...

32 posted on 05/11/2010 2:27:26 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: ejonesie22

Here’s a great piece about the “gathering to Zion of the Lamanites” from another site...

Joseph Smith misunderstood the Indian Removal Act

The earliest mention of relocating Indians away from whites was made during the Lousiana Purchase.

Thomas Jefferson on the Lousiana Purchase in 1803:
“The inhabited part of Louisiana, from Point Colupee to the sea, will of course be immediately a territorial government, and soon a State. But above that, the best use we can make of the country for some time, will be to give establishments in it to the Indians on the east side of the Mississippi, in exchange for their present country, and open land offices in the last, and thus make this acquisition the means of filling up the eastern side, instead of drawing off its population. When we shall be full on this side, we may lay off a range of States on the western bank from the head to the mouth, and so, range after range, advancing compactly as we multiply.”

“Louisiana, as ceded by France to the United States, is made a part of the United States, its white inhabitants shall be citizens, and stand, as to their rights and obligations, on the same footing with other citizens of the United States in analogous situations.”

Note that Jefferson saw the new lands as a place to move all of the Indians into while the eastern states filled up with whites. Then later the Indian lands would be advanced into and occupied by whites. Only the Whites in the lands of the Louisana purchase would be given citizenship.

From the Indian Removal Act of 1830:
“And be it further enacted, That in the making of any such exchange or exchanges, it shall and may be lawful for the President solemnly to assure the tribe or nation with which the exchange is made, that the United States will forever secure and guaranty to them, and their heirs or successors, the country so exchanged with them; and if they prefer it, that the United States will cause a patent or grant to be made and executed to them for the same: Provided always, That such lands shall revert to the United States, if the Indians become extinct, or abandon the same.”

Note that Congress approved that the Indians were promised that the lands west of the Mississippi would be theirs forever unless they became extinct or abandoned their lands. This disclaimer allowed for the multiplying and advancing white citizens to follow Jefferson’s policy.

Joseph Smith’s distortion of the removal policy:

1832
“It is not only gratifying, but almost marvelous, to witness the gathering of the Indians. The work has been going on for some time, and these remnants of Joseph gather by hundreds and settle west of the Missouri, and Arkansas. And is not this scripture fulfilling: Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock, through the instrumentality of the government of the United States? … The book of Mormon declares that the land which is now called America, is a choice land above all others, and we believe it, because the Lord has said it, and we have seen it.”

1833
“The United States continue to buy the land of Joseph, and become nursing fathers unto his children…What a beauty it is to see the prophecies fulfilling so exactly.”

Parley P. Pratt in 1837:
“and I would only add, that the government of the United States, has been engaged, for upwards of seven years, in gathering the remnant of Joseph, (the Indians) to the very place, where they will finally build a New Jerusalem, a city of Zion, with the assistance of the Gentiles, who will gather with them from all the nations of the earth; and this gathering is clearly predicted in the Book of Mormon, and other revelations, and the place before appointed, and the time set for its fulfillment;”

No new Jerusalem was built. The removal act had nothing to do with the gathering of Israel. Today many LDS no longer consider the American Indian to be Book of Mormon people.

This is just another example of the failed prophecies of an idiot who did not even understand the policies of the United States government.

(Anon)


33 posted on 05/11/2010 2:58:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla; 999replies

Because there is no evidence to back up the book of mormon, the whole religion should collapse. What is supporting it now? Lies do not save you, the Truth (Jesus) does!


34 posted on 05/11/2010 3:32:50 PM PDT by Buddygirl
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Because there is no evidence to back up the book of mormon, the whole religion should collapse. What is supporting it now? Lies do not save you, the Truth (Jesus) does!

In my experience, when faced with these facts the common mormon reply is to recite the matra "I believe the book of mormon is the word of God and Joseph smith is a prophet because I've got a testimony" or some variation thereof. They are conditioned that 'facts' do not matter, only the 'testimony' they received - the 'burning in the bosom' or similar subjective experience - which invalidates truth. It is a psychological switch that kicks on after years of conditioning to deal with the obvious falsehood of the situation. If you follow the comments mormons make on these threads, you will see a similar mechanism kick in time and again.

With the expansion of the internet, the mormon church is hemmoraging membership big time since they can no longer control the information the sheeple receive on these matters. Many here in FR have exited because of the exposed lies like the false archaeology. Many, however, turn to atheism because of the conditioning that the mormon church is the only true church. When that is stripped away, they reject all.

Many here may not see the light, it is my (as well as many others) prayer that they will see the light and come to the real Jesus and not the figment of Joseph Smith's imagination.

35 posted on 05/11/2010 3:43:54 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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