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To: marshmallow
We now know the reason for the time lag in filing complaints against errant priests. Not only are the victims not believed when they come forward (just read some of these skeptical comments) but we now understand that according to the Vatican rules and regulations and reiterated by Ratzinger in his job as Chief Inquisitor, a victim may not go public with his accusation against a priest until 10 years after he reaches the age of 18, under penalty of excommunication.

That means a seven-year-old victim must wait until he is 28 before he comes forward with his accusations against a pederast priest. Twenty-one years of keeping his mouth shut!

Wake up, Roman Catholics. There's something very wrong in Rome.

77 posted on 04/09/2010 8:54:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
we now understand that according to the Vatican rules and regulations and reiterated by Ratzinger in his job as Chief Inquisitor, a victim may not go public with his accusation against a priest until 10 years after he reaches the age of 18, under penalty of excommunication.

I want to know your source for this because the last two cases in my archdiocese, one of which WAS true pedophilia, were made public less than a week after the archbishop was contacted. Both men were fast-tracked to laicization and both are in prison. One case, the victim was actually a teenage girl, was last year. The source, please, because the actual cases defy your statement.

80 posted on 04/09/2010 9:04:45 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
There's something very wrong in Rome.

Correct. There is also something very wrong in Las Vegas, Newark, Dallas, Paris, Hong Kong, Cedar Rapids, in my house and in yours; it's called sin. Humans sin, it's a result of our fallen nature, it's also the reason for Easter. We are all at fault of "not Thy will but my will be done" to some extent and as I have been told by my separated brethren, all sin is the same; especially when the subject of venial and mortal sin comes up.

The father of lies, the murder form the start has his influence on us all to some extent be we priest, teacher, mother or anonymous internet poster hiding behind a screen name. No one, not one Catholic is defending the sinful acts of any religious who indeed committed acts of abuse against children. It's obvious that some priests, some Bishops and others in the hierarchy for reasons ranging form malevolent to ignorance perpetuated the problem for many years.

Whats truly sad, leaving the horrors of abuse aside for the moment, is the fact that these sins can drive a wedge so firmly between they who profess Christ. That the sins of some are seen as an opportunity to attach other Christians must make the evil one dance for what passes for joy. When we tear at each other he wins.

Christ said that no one could snatch one of his own form His hand and yet some of us allow our selves to plucked rather easily form his loving embrace in order to indulge our passions. Christ commanded us to keep his commandments, He specifically exhorted us to "love one another as I have loved you". When we keep His commandments, when we are in Christ, we are carrying Him to the people.

Ask you self, truly, am I bearing Christ in my inquiry into the Churches handling of some abuse cases or am I indulging in a passion that glorifies something other than Christ? Is this the best way to help the abused and, as we should, the sinful abuser? Are you praying that the sinner repents or are you praying it (the Church) all burns?

I pray for you, speciffically, and several others who habitually attack the Church because it seems to be an unhealthy, spiritually speaking, indulgence. When Paul told us that kindness to our enemy's was like heaping coals on their heads, he was not urging us to inflict pain but implying that our love and kindness would have a purifying effect like the live coal the seraphim used to purify Isaiah's lips.

88 posted on 04/09/2010 10:07:42 PM PDT by conservonator (Former government employee - USMC)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“we now understand that according to the Vatican rules and regulations and reiterated by Ratzinger in his job as Chief Inquisitor, a victim may not go public with his accusation against a priest until 10 years after he reaches the age of 18, under penalty of excommunication.”

Did you even make an attempt to verify that your statement was true? Any attempt at all?

The document in question reads, “It must be noted that the criminal action on delicts reserved to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is extinguished by a prescription of 10 years.(11) The prescription runs according to the universal and common law;(12) however, in the delict perpetrated with a minor by a cleric, the prescription begins to run from the day when the minor has completed the 18th year of age.”

Which means this: “The enforcement power of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith normally expires if no action is taken within ten years following the prohibited act. However, if the “delict” [offense] involves a minor, the 10-year statute of limitations begins to run on the victim’s 18th birthday and not from the date of the act. (In legalese, the statute of limitations would be “tolled” until the victim turned 18.)”

The minor victim is not required to remain silent—not for ten years, or ten days, or ten seconds. On the contrary, he is given a longer period during which he may come forward. This document orders an *extension* that benefits the victim, not an order to remain silent.

How could you possibly have believed such a thing as you alleged? Did you really? How did you come to be so completely consumed with hatred for the Church?


97 posted on 04/10/2010 5:28:19 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Not only are the victims not believed when they come forward (just read some of these skeptical comments) but we now understand that according to the Vatican rules and regulations and reiterated by Ratzinger in his job as Chief Inquisitor, a victim may not go public with his accusation against a priest until 10 years after he reaches the age of 18, under penalty of excommunication."

That is a lie.

103 posted on 04/10/2010 8:10:17 AM PDT by Natural Law
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