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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What in the Liber Gomorrhianus do you find not going far enough? Were the dealings with the Templars on the issue strong enough for you (such accusations, along with a few others, resulted in burning at the stake)? Of course, such arrangements pre-suppose a different arrangement between Church and state.

In seminary we were pointed to a certain verse which mentions millstones as being appropriate to consider—and the unanimous attitude was in favour of its enforcement. Of course none of my classmates have acted on the verse—that would have made headlines—but you haven’t either.

If you are a trained canon lawyer, it is not difficult to understand, just as a trained electrician has no problems understanding an electrical diagram. If you are an amateur, it may be a little harder.

Tell me—can you find an instance of an excommunication, or a threat of excommunication—being uttered against anyone for reporting sexual abuse outside of the confessional to anyone who is not a Church authority, or to Church authorities before they reached the age of 28? This is what you were stating the law does in your post 77, and it is either true or calumny. By citing sexual abuse generically rather than abuse of the confessional in this response, (post 175) you are continuing to confuse even the terms of the discussion—which makes discussion difficult

I may reply to your other reply (post 176) later—the two ought to be dealt with together but I do not have the time to do so now.

Did you pray for me and dsc? I prayed for you.


178 posted on 04/11/2010 5:13:12 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: Hieronymus
Tell me—can you find an instance of an excommunication, or a threat of excommunication—being uttered against anyone for reporting sexual abuse outside of the confessional to anyone who is not a Church authority, or to Church authorities before they reached the age of 28?

lol. Deflecting the argument again?

Those number would be difficult to tabulate, no doubt, because of the canon laws now in place which mandate secrecy for all involved with the sinful acts of pedophile priests.

Those laws are why Ratzinger was rightly accused of obstruction of justice and why he had to hide under the cover of "diplomatic immunity" to escape conviction.

201 posted on 04/11/2010 11:43:17 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Hieronymus
Did you pray for me and dsc?

What's with your preoccupation on whom I pray for?

It should be enough for you to know I do not pray to statues of Mary and assorted dead people who may or may not now reside in heaven because I believe the word of God when Paul reminds us that "there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man, Christ Jesus."

202 posted on 04/11/2010 11:46:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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