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aMorePerfectUnion - “Two words: cover up.”

True - see articles.

padre35 - “A Editorial by some LSM writer means what, exactly? If I did not think well of my fellow FReepers who are Catholic, I would take this effort as some sort of hit piece on the SBC.”

padre, you asked for convicted Child Molesting Protestant Pastors. You have a problem with those I posted - there’s plenty more. The Pastors at SBC don’t appear to like it either but this information comes from a Protestant Pastor who wants to “shine a light” on the abuses and get something done about the predators within...certainly a good thing which appears to be greatly needed.

This is a letter from the Southern Baptist Convention to SNAP – not very hopeful - http://stopbaptistpredators.org/documents/Botoletter.pdf

Another one where they outline how they can’t be responsible...
“I know that this has happened on multiple occasions....” http://stopbaptistpredators.org/documents/Baptist_Letter.pdf

And here are just a few of the -

Convicted, Confessed, Credibly Accused Cover-ups:

“Clergy sex-abuse and cover-up scandal hits Southern Baptist flagship -

Bellevue Baptist is a flagship megachurch for Southern Baptists. It was long pastored by 3-term Southern Baptist president Adrian Rogers, and more recently, by Steve Gaines.

In 2006-07, it was mired in reports of a clergy child molestation cover-up.

Pastor Steve Gaines knew that one of his staff ministers had sexually abused a kid years earlier. What did he do? He kept quiet”...
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/scandals/bellevue.html

Assistant pastor guilty of sex abuse against son
By Hannah Elliott Tuesday, January 30, 2007
http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1763&Itemid=120
http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?s=5848132

Even his wife knew he sexually abused their son yet joined in the cover-up.

The Valley of the Shadow of Death
By Skip Hollandsworth
Texas Monthly
March 2008

“...Unlike some denominations, Baptist churches have no defined hierarchies and operate independently of one another. There are no rules, for example, requiring a church to inform the convention’s leaders that one of its pastors has been accused of misconduct.”

“In fact, to avoid defamation lawsuits, leaders of a church have an incentive to keep their mouths shut when it comes to questionable behavior among their clergy,...”
Just as they had been at Baylor and at First Baptist of Waco, the written complaints about his behavior were put in a file and, for better or worse, forgotten.”

“Even with so many allegations of abuse and assault on teens and young women, Matt was able to get still another job working with students. His position was funded by the Baptist General Convention of Texas. After his arrest on murder charges, Matt was suspended “with pay.”

“Matt also worked as a substitute teacher in Kerrville. He was teaching at a high school just before he was taken into custody.”
[Article is excerpted; to read all of it, subscribe at TexasMonthly.com.
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2008-03-01/feature-1.php ]

This sexual pervert Pastor got 65yrs for murdering his wife.

This is a very sad story -

...”In the aftermath, Diana lost everything family, career, home, health, even some church friends who couldn’t understand why she had her husband arrested and then divorced him: He’d said he was sorry and would never do it again; why couldn’t she forgive?”

“To some who scorned her, Diana committed the ultimate sin by suing the Southern Baptist Convention in Virginia, the organizational arm of her church (winning a $1.56 million judgment, then losing it a year later on appeal). She sued because church officials knew the oldest daughter, Renee, was being abused long before Diana did. One of them, according to Renee’s sworn testimony, told her to forgive her father and not tell anyone what he had done.”

“It was three years before Renee got the courage to speak up again. By then, her father had started in on her two little sisters.”
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article/george_tom_wade.html

Jury recommends three life terms for ex-pastor
MARTHA DELLER
STAFF WRITER, FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM
FORT WORTH, TX —

“Rejecting defense pleas for probation or a short prison term, a Tarrant County jury recommended that Larry Nuell Neathery serve maximum prison terms on 25 charges of sexually abusing five boys, virtually ensuring that the 56-year-old former Baptist pastor ends his life behind bars.”

“Besides being abused, she said, Neathery’s victims were ostracized by members of Westside Victory Baptist Church, where Neathery was pastor when the abuse occurred.”...
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article/larryneathery.html

Plenty more here...
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/news.html

Comment by a prior President of SBC - Bobby Welch...

“We shouldn’t enjoy this Catholic mess too much. We’re waiting on the other shoe to drop, and when it does, don’t be surprised if there is more and more within our ranks.”
Also more cover-ups...
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=7954

He’s talking like they actually “enjoy” our debasement. Sick! He’s correct when he states they need to be cautious in their joy.


70 posted on 04/04/2010 10:00:28 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Well, gosh bronxville, I suppose I should then compare such accusations to collective guilt placed on Hebrews..

I’m quite happy with those criminal prosecutions, in fact I do think there should be more of them “if’ the malfeasance can be found.

However, and once again, pointing to the SBC with a j’accuse does not absolve the Catholic Church from their continuing alacrity in not dealing with their own issues.

And one still has not answered my query about a LSM article means what..exactly.

So allow my to amplyfy the question with “why would you view a LSM article involving the Catholic Church differently”?

It merely amounts to relativism on behalf of a 2,000 yr old institution.


76 posted on 04/06/2010 11:53:50 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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