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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper
It's more interesting to think you do not believe God gives us all that we possess, including health and wealth.

By your thinking, God makes criminals, mentally challenged, God makes us sick, blind, brain damaged, etc.

If a man has been redeemed, he will surmount his handicaps

I see, so those who struggle and fail were not redeemed...

I thank God every day He "forced" His way into my life and that He made me realize I am His possession

Right...nothing like being forced and owned. That's true love/sar. I can see why slavery flourished as a Christian institution; it was the "labor of love."

Christians can relax -- they have been forgiven; they have been redeemed; they are His.

Facing the unknown, I suppose it is comforting to some people to believe fanciful stories. Others may simply give themselves to their God unconditionally and say "your will be done, I am yours," or, dispensing with human fancy, simply surrender to the obvious and admit "whatever will be will be."

383 posted on 04/15/2010 11:29:20 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
By your thinking, God makes criminals, mentally challenged, God makes us sick, blind, brain damaged, etc.

Matthew 9: 27 17 And as Jesus passed on from there, two blind men followed (him), crying out, "Son of David, 18 have pity on us!" 28 When he entered the house, the blind men approached him and Jesus said to them, "Do you believe that I can do this?" "Yes, Lord," they said to him. 29 Then he touched their eyes and said, "Let it be done for you according to your faith." 30 And their eyes were opened. Jesus warned them sternly, "See that no one knows about this." 31 But they went out and spread word of him through all that land. 32 As they were going out, 19 a demoniac who could not speak was brought to him, 33 and when the demon was driven out the mute person spoke. The crowds were amazed and said, "Nothing like this has ever been seen in Israel." 34 20 But the Pharisees said, "He drives out demons by the prince of demons." 35 21 Jesus went around to all the towns and villages, teaching in their synagogues, proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and curing every disease and illness. 36 At the sight of the crowds, his heart was moved with pity for them because they were troubled and abandoned, 22 like sheep without a shepherd.

God is the antithesis of illness. But what does Scripture say that its cause is?

Job 2:7 So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head.

James 1: 12 Blessed is the man who perseveres in temptation, 6 for when he has been proved he will receive the crown of life that he promised to those who love him. 13 7 No one experiencing temptation should say, "I am being tempted by God"; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he himself tempts no one. 14 Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. 15 Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death. 16 8 Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers: 17 all good giving and every perfect gift 9 is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no alteration or shadow caused by change.

So, Biblically anyway, all good and perfection comes from God; all else is as a result of the Fall and the influence of satan.

I can see why slavery flourished as a Christian institution; it was the "labor of love."

It was the Christian duty to bring the savages to civilization - not that they participated in it, but so that they could witness it and perform the hard manual labour to sustain it.

simply surrender to the obvious and admit "whatever will be will be."

Very well, on your head be it:


386 posted on 04/15/2010 4:15:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: kosta50

Does God give us all we possess?


397 posted on 04/16/2010 1:10:26 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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