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To: srweaver

“”Actually, it is a pretty good deterrent.””

For one ,jail time is usually limited-just look at the terrorists our government is setting free. For two, there is murder rape etc..that goes on while people are in jail,so it’s not the deterrent you seem to think it is

“””Do you think Jesus abrogated the state, OR replaced it with the church.If so, you don’t know the Bible very well””

Ever hear of scripture typology and the New Covenant? It’s how the Bible has been understood and the reason why the Catholic Church gave you NT canon

The Church replaced Israel and is the” new Israel”- Universal Salvation for all-Gentiles etc...

From “This Rock” article
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9902chap.asp
“the Church is spiritual Israel or, in Catholic parlance, the “new Israel” (cf. CCC 877). This too is indicated in Paul’s writings: In Romans 9:6 he says that “not all who are of Israel are Israel.” This indicates the existence of two Israels. One—”all who are of Israel”—indicates the ethnic people, not all of whom believe in Jesus. The other Israel, the context reveals, does not include those who have rejected the Messiah. This new Israel, founded by Messiah, exists in spiritual continuity with the Old Testament saints and so counts as a “spiritual Israel.” It includes Gentiles who believe in the Messiah and so through baptism are spiritually circumcised (Col. 2:11–12) and are reckoned as spiritual Jews (Rom. 2:26–29).

In his letter to the Ephesians Paul is even more explicit about the Gentiles’ spiritual inclusion when he states that “you Gentiles in the flesh . . . were [once] separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel . . . But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near . . . So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints” (2:11–13, 19).”

“”God protect us from the abuses of the Roman Catholic Church””

The Church is Divine and does not abuse anyone-it’s only people who do NOT follow what the Church teaches that abuse,both inside and outside of Holy Mother Church

“”Thank God for the proper separation of church and state””

Separation of the Church from the State is not from God ,it’s from the devil.The Church will still be standing when the state is finished just like it has throughout history

“”And thank God for the state to protect me from evildoers””

You should thank God,certainly not the state

This conversation is getting tiresome ,dear friend

I wish you a Blessed Evening!


143 posted on 04/02/2010 9:07:17 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

Very tiresome. Happy Easter!


145 posted on 04/02/2010 11:29:17 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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