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To: xsmommy; fish hawk
"By their fruits shall you know them. My fruits speak for me, i am afraid your’s speak for you as well. Pray that you might be a better representative of Christ. That’s my prayer for you."

Precisely what I was getting at. Re read your remarks and notice that your words point toward a life that merits salvation because of the "fruit". This comes from that darkened teaching of Rome that fruit gains grace, rather than fruit being a result of grace. Pay close attention to how much you think you deserve heaven. That will be a tattletale as to whether you understand the Gospel or follow the gospel of Rome. I certainly pray that I can represent Christ alone, and I pray that you can escape representing Rome.

64 posted on 03/30/2010 3:53:33 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Luke 6:

41And why seest thou the mote in thy brother's eye: but the beam that is in thy own eye thou considerest not? 42Or how canst thou say to thy brother: Brother, let me pull the mote out of thy eye, when thou thyself seest not the beam in thy own eye? Hypocrite, cast first the beam out of thy own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to take out the mote from thy brother's eye. 43For there is no good tree that bringeth forth evil fruit; nor an evil tree that bringeth forth good fruit. 44For every tree is known by its fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns; nor from a bramble bush do they gather the grape. 45A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth that which is evil. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 46And why call you me, Lord, Lord; and do not the things which I say? 47Every one that cometh to me, and heareth my words, and doth them, I will shew you to whom he is like. 48He is like to a man building a house, who digged deep, and laid the foundation upon a rock. And when a flood came, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and it could not shake it; for it was founded on a rock. 49But he that heareth, and doth not, is like to a man building his house upon the earth without a foundation: against which the stream beat vehemently, and immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great.

65 posted on 03/30/2010 4:00:47 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dutchboy88

i know i am going to heaven, Christ died for my sins i know i”m going. that doesn’t mean i am absolved of bearing fruit on His behalf. what do you hope to gain with the nasty anticatholici vitriol that you spew here? if you hope to convince anyone that you are right and catholics wrong, you are failing, my brother. even non-catholics feel compelled to inveigh against you. pray for guidance, pray for Christ’s love to shine forth from you, because i am here to tell you, it’s sorely lacking. turn from your self-righteousness and seek God, that you might better serve Him


71 posted on 03/30/2010 4:44:50 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Dutchboy88
This comes from that darkened teaching of Rome that fruit gains grace, rather than fruit being a result of grace.

Except that that isn't the "teaching of Rome" -- darkened or otherwise -- so your objection is groundless.

Trent merely said that good works, performed by a man who is already justified in Christ, strengthen the grace of justification in him.

They don't gain it, win it, cause it, or anything else like that. They only strengthen what God has already placed within him, and they are most certainly the fruit of that grace.

102 posted on 03/30/2010 10:25:24 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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