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To: RobbyS
This is not politics but spiritual warfare. The media, who represent the powers that be, are attacking the Church because she is one of their chief enemies. The problem is, however, that the Church is divided, and I mean the Catholic Church. There are liberals who would like to take over the Church the way they have taken over the Episcopal Church. Benedict is their enemy because he holds the papal throne, and they would love to replace him with one of their own. Call them Notre Dame Catholics, they have friends in high places, friends hostile to the Pope, hostile to traditional Christianity in any form.

When the devil tempted Christ was that religious or political?

Do you consider it impossible to contemplate the left can't or won't install their own politically correct Pope?

Christ said these things need be. What things?

96 posted on 03/25/2010 8:26:45 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Well, in Paul VI, they had their liberal pope. But he infuriated them by issuing Humanae Vitae, the encyclical against artificial contraception. This precipitated a virtual rebellion against Rome. Most bishops refused to supportit, and many priests quit in protest because they had been promising their parishioners for years that the Church was about to follow the Church of England in changing its teaching on contraception. Strung alone, mistaught by these false priests, many, even the majority of lay Catholics, also rejected the encyclical.

What turned the matter around or brought the process of a slowdown was Roe v. Wade, who installed abortion on demand as the law of the land. From Griswold to Roe, it took the court only five years radically to change the law regarding traditional sexual morality in he United States. From a Christian perspective, we now have a neo-pagan one. The bishops were now forced to oppose Roe, but many not gladly, and many of their priests secretly supported the new law. All liberal put their hopes that Paul VI could be replaced by a still more liberal pope.

Their hopes were frustrated by the election of John Paul II, a strong supporter of traditional sexual morality. However, he found the Church infested with dissenters, and at the highest levels, so he decided to go over their heads and go directly to the people. His well-publicsized trips overseas were really missions to the world. At his side was Joseph Ratzinger, who became hated by many liberal bishops, priests, and nuns as the enforcer of traditional doctrine. The liberals were too strongto take head on, so they had to be attacked piecemeal. The pope coined the term "Culture of Death" to describe the anti-life position of the likes of Planned Parenthood and NARAL. His personal popularity infuriated the liberals but it attracted many young men who became John Paul priests. He was able to ordain more bishops who shared his views, so that when he died the Cardinals were unable to resist electing Benedict XVI as his successor. But the liberals are still powerful in the Church, and on particular Cardinal who was the "white hope" of the liberals did not fail to publish his resentment. His main support is in the Third World, for the European Church is too weak to provide much support for the Gospel. In the United States, the USCCB has many liberal /luke-warm bishops. The 200 (of 600) who opposed Obama's visit to Notre Dame, represent those who are strongly supportive of the pope. But we have lost most of the college presidents, and as the health bill showed much of the medical establishment. Liberals put their trust in politics, in the benevolence of the State. So here we are.

99 posted on 03/26/2010 9:10:04 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Well, in Paul VI, they had their liberal pope. But he infuriated them by issuing Humanae Vitae, the encyclical against artificial contraception. This precipitated a virtual rebellion against Rome. Most bishops refused to supportit, and many priests quit in protest because they had been promising their parishioners for years that the Church was about to follow the Church of England in changing its teaching on contraception. Strung alone, mistaught by these false priests, many, even the majority of lay Catholics, also rejected the encyclical.

What turned the matter around or brought the process of a slowdown was Roe v. Wade, who installed abortion on demand as the law of the land. From Griswold to Roe, it took the court only five years radically to change the law regarding traditional sexual morality in he United States. From a Christian perspective, we now have a neo-pagan one. The bishops were now forced to oppose Roe, but many not gladly, and many of their priests secretly supported the new law. All liberal put their hopes that Paul VI could be replaced by a still more liberal pope.

Their hopes were frustrated by the election of John Paul II, a strong supporter of traditional sexual morality. However, he found the Church infested with dissenters, and at the highest levels, so he decided to go over their heads and go directly to the people. His well-publicsized trips overseas were really missions to the world. At his side was Joseph Ratzinger, who became hated by many liberal bishops, priests, and nuns as the enforcer of traditional doctrine. The liberals were too strongto take head on, so they had to be attacked piecemeal. The pope coined the term "Culture of Death" to describe the anti-life position of the likes of Planned Parenthood and NARAL. His personal popularity infuriated the liberals but it attracted many young men who became John Paul priests. He was able to ordain more bishops who shared his views, so that when he died the Cardinals were unable to resist electing Benedict XVI as his successor. But the liberals are still powerful in the Church, and on particular Cardinal who was the "white hope" of the liberals did not fail to publish his resentment. His main support is in the Third World, for the European Church is too weak to provide much support for the Gospel. In the United States, the USCCB has many liberal /luke-warm bishops. The 200 (of 600) who opposed Obama's visit to Notre Dame, represent those who are strongly supportive of the pope. But we have lost most of the college presidents, and as the health bill showed much of the medical establishment. Liberals put their trust in politics, in the benevolence of the State. So here we are.

100 posted on 03/26/2010 9:11:02 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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