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To: sabe@q.com

No, it doesn’t. They are unrelated points.

To summarize:

Point 1: The Catholic Church has a single, worldwide leader, recognized in his position by Catholics and everyone else. Non-Catholics, anti-Catholics, “what’s a Catholic?s”, know that the Pope is leader of the Catholic Church.

Agreed?

Point 1a: Few other churches or Christian organizations have a similar figure.

Agreed?

Point 2: The sinfulness of any individual man or woman does not change the moral teaching of the Catholic Church. If Pope Benedict XVI were to prove to be an egregious sinner, like Pope Alexander VI, that would not affect the truth or falsehood of the Catholic Church’s moral teaching in any way. No Pope, good or bad, has ever said, “My personal behavior is the standard of Christian morality.”

Point 2a: If a priest sins, whether it’s by committing sodomy, or fornication, or the more prosaical gluttony or wrath, that has nothing to do with the truth or falsehood of the Catholic Faith. It is an axiom that all men sin. We are to have compassion for one another’s weakness, to exhort one another to repent and to improve, and to deligently exert ourselves to prevent harm to others.

Point 2b: It is claimed that the Church has fallen short in the last item, preventing harm to others. I agree, more should have been done. Some erred through ignorance, others through indifference or because of their personal sin. None of this is relevant to the point that sodomy is wrong, every time, all the time, no matter who does it, no matter how they feel about it.


52 posted on 03/25/2010 4:01:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Never apologize - it's a sign of weakness.)
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To: Tax-chick

“If a priest sins, whether it’s by committing sodomy, or fornication, or the more prosaical gluttony or wrath, that has nothing to do with the truth or falsehood of the Catholic Faith.”

Shows how hypocritical it all is. Teach one thing and practice another. Does cause one to lose faith.


55 posted on 03/25/2010 4:09:39 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Tax-chick

Excellent post. I think that one of the misunderstandings may be that as religious, the Pope and others at the vatican perceive these issues in a different way than others. The Pope is not some kind of head “cop”, which it seems to me some would like him to be.

Instead, his perspective is right and wrong, sin, healing and forgiveness. Devotion to God.

It is a conflict between the secular and religious world.


56 posted on 03/25/2010 4:12:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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