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To: RightOnline; trisham
However, the blood HAS been typed as AB+ and is definitely human blood. We even know which blood was from when he was alive and which blood was post-mortum (i.e. the blood from the spear thrust in his anatomical right side).

It's also important to note that a medieval forger would have had NO KNOWLEDGE that there even were different blood types, nor would he have known that science would one day be able to determine whether or not blood came from a living person or a dead person. In fact, a medieval forger wouldn't have even considered it important to use human blood.

117 posted on 03/25/2010 5:45:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Yes...then add the following (just a few of many such tidbits):

- There is no debt of directionality in the image; no brushstrokes. It is not the result of human eye-hand coordination. The image is the product of “random information”. Pretty hard to fake that.

- The flow of the blood (arms, etc.) “obeys” the laws of circulation and gravity; “laws” that didn’t exist for another 500 years (if, ahem, it was a “medieval fraud”).

- While we’re at it, if it was created in Medieval times, how is it that this was 500 years before the concept of photo-negativity was even known?

- You can’t even make out details of the image until you’re about 11 ft. away from it. Our “medieval forger” would have needed one hell of long paint brush, eh?

- It exhibits many characteristics of an autoradiograph (aka “x-ray”). Can make out the orbits of the eyes, teeth, bones (ever wonder why his fingers look so long?), even his sinus cavities. Interesting things to forge......

- Notice his thumbs are missing. This is because during crucifixion, nails were driven though the wrists (NOT the palms of the hands; they’d never support the body’s weight). By doing this, you damage the median nerves. Adds an incredible amount of pain as well as holding the body’s weight.

Also makes the thumbs fold inward. Interesting tidbit for a “forger” to catch, methinks.

- It’s been established since 1978 that there are no dyes or pigments or stains that in any way coincide with the image on the Shroud. None.


119 posted on 03/25/2010 6:01:57 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: wagglebee
It's also important to note that a medieval forger would have had NO KNOWLEDGE that there even were different blood types, nor would he have known that science would one day be able to determine whether or not blood came from a living person or a dead person. In fact, a medieval forger wouldn't have even considered it important to use human blood.

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Excellent points. We take all of that for granted these days, but in the past it was a complete mystery.

172 posted on 03/26/2010 7:28:35 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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