Posted on 03/25/2010 8:19:34 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
Anti Catholics do not care about the facts. Even the fact of the horrors of abuse becomes in their hands a tool to advance lies.
Do they really think Non Catholic denominations are safe from attack by secularists? Do they really think that no sins are ever committed by their clergy or members? Do they really think that any wrong doing by such will not be used to convince people that Christianity must surrender being a voice of moral authority. And shut up about deviance, abortion, and other sins? And most of all stop preaching the Gospel?
I am saddened by the blinders they have put on. If the secularists who are frothing at the mouth truly had the protection of children as their main concern they would stop promoting the sexualization of children, stop yammering for abortion, stop fawning over gay lifestyles.
They have an agenda and it is not protecting the innocent. Jumping on their bandwagon will not benefit the Gospel at all.
Wrong was done and it is a terrible sin and crime. But never forget that what Christianity has always claimed as being wrong is for the most part embraced and defended by the people you are so quick to laud.
Nope.
Letters from Gregory the Great to Augustine of Canterbury require celibacy of clergy in major AND MINOR orders. Maybe the rule wasn't made 'law' in the 1000's but it was required way earlier than that.
Well said, lastchance.
It’s hilarious, and telling, that anti-Catholics like liberal rags like the National Catholic Reporter.
The Secular Left is really ratcheting up the attacks on the church. Easter must be coming up.
You wrote:
“Within the Catholic communion for instance, for the last few hundred years Maronites have been permitted married clergy with a gentlements agreement they cannot progress higher in the church once married.”
I think they always had married priests and celibate bishops.
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Hunker down. It happens every Lent.
“But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
I agree.
In his five years as Archbishop of Munich, repeated cases of sexual abuse at least by one priest transferred to his Archdiocese have come to light. His loyal Vicar General, my classmate Gerhard Gruber, has taken full responsibility for the handling of this case, but that is hardly an excuse for the Archbishop, who is ultimately responsible for the administration of his diocese.
No excuse.
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I agree
I didn’t say you wanted to be associated with Kung. I was explaining that liberal Catholics hate celibacy, and conservative Catholics think it is valuable. I did that because there are a lot of other types of conservatuve Christians on FR who might not realize this, and because the article you posted questions the worth of celibacy.
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Why are we putting anything at all from NCR without an appropriate barf alert? These people have nothing useful and seldom anything truthful to say.
Their credibility on this and any other issue is less than ZERO.
Hans Kung. Why don’t you just jump and convert. I hear that the Archbishop of Canterbury is hiring.
Some more convicting parts of Paul's letter:
"I can hardly believe the report about the sexual immorality going on among yousomething that even pagans dont do." ~ (1 Corinthians 5:1)
"When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. But I wasnt talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or are greedy, or cheat people, or worship idols. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Dont even eat with such people." ~ (1 Corinthians 5:9-11)
I can tell you what I do not want to be associated with. I do not want to be associated with the sexual violence of young children and the systematic coverup of paedophiles and their crimes.
what an asinine reply.....the incidence of child abuse among protestant clergy FAR outnumbers those in the Catholic clergy. In most cases, Catholic and protestant, the cases are far more homosexual then paedophilic. When you decide that name calling is your goal, find out what you are talking about or shut up.
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