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Satire and Sarcasm
Chasing Hats ^ | July 18, 2002 | Joshua Clark

Posted on 03/23/2010 5:44:17 PM PDT by delacoert

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To: trisham; SZonian
I’ll leave the discernment of purpose and motives to you.

Right /sarc

41 posted on 03/24/2010 2:27:10 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Right

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Jeepers. Thanks!

42 posted on 03/24/2010 2:28:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: restornu

You know, my feelings are getting hurt. You won’t talk to me (pouts)


43 posted on 03/24/2010 2:51:47 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

Resty, I would LOVE to know what leap of logic had you pair up the use of sarcasm with God’s promise to prepare places in heaven for his children. Do you think He was being sarcastic?

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I thought the reply was self explanatory to the quote.

“Seems there’s a few of us that can appreciate sarcasm.”

So if there are only a few there would need to be a place for those who think that way!

You know the Father house is very spacious and therefore it covers all degrees of glory!


44 posted on 03/24/2010 3:07:36 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Godzilla
To quote Charles Spurgeon:
45 posted on 03/24/2010 3:12:24 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: restornu; svcw
Resty:I thought the reply was self explanatory to the quote.

Um.....no, sorry

Resty: “Seems there’s a few of us that can appreciate sarcasm.”

I think it's more a matter of being able to dish it out vs taking it.

Resty: "So if there are only a few there would need to be a place for those who think that way!"

are you trying to say that God is promising to make a special mansion in heaven for those who appreciate sarcasm? That doesn't sound right to me.

Resty:You know the Father house is very spacious and therefore it covers all degrees of glory!

Well, Christians don't believe in "degrees of glory". However, I know that LDS do. Whay is confusing to me is the next verse in the chapter you quoted (remember - context, context, context)

When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am. John 14:3

Is that right? The LDS can't believe this is true. Jesus will only visit the two highr degrees of glory, the Celestial and the Terrestial kingdoms. Those in the lower Telestial kingdom never get to see Jesus again, nor "Heavenly Father"

So is Jesus being sarcastic?

46 posted on 03/24/2010 3:19:45 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: delacoert
To quote Charles Spurgeon:

Oh noes - another of those 'Bigots'

47 posted on 03/24/2010 3:24:23 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: T Minus Four; restornu
Those in the lower Telestial kingdom never get to see Jesus again, nor "Heavenly Father"

Welllll......technically Jesus could go and visit them, but would he want to? They might use sarcasm and that would just be totally disgusting!

48 posted on 03/24/2010 3:39:11 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry
Welllll......technically Jesus could go and visit them, but would he want to? They might use sarcasm and that would just be totally disgusting!

Well, who said the sarcastic mansions are in the lowest level of glory?

49 posted on 03/24/2010 3:40:49 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

Only as far as it is correctly translated.      <rolleyes>

 

 

Did I say that outloud?

50 posted on 03/24/2010 3:50:22 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

oh snap


51 posted on 03/24/2010 3:53:06 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: delacoert

Satire, in a way, is telling the truth; in making it obvious why the object of the satire is ridiculous, error is rebuked.


52 posted on 03/24/2010 3:56:30 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Battlestar Galactica: Another Testimony of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
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To: colorcountry
technically Jesus could go and visit them

Actually, not true according to their Doctrines and Covenant:

Joseph Smith taught that individuals in the telestial kingdom will be servants of God, but "where God and Christ dwell they cannot come, worlds without end";[25] however, they will receive the ministration of the Holy Ghost and beings from the terrestrial kingdom

53 posted on 03/24/2010 3:58:58 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: colorcountry

How bizarre to think of a heaven where you will never be in the presence of God. I’m glad you’re going to be in the Christian heaven with me and all other believers CC :-) And we will glory in the presence of God forever.


54 posted on 03/24/2010 4:01:20 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am. John 14:3

Is that right? The LDS can’t believe this is true. Jesus will only visit the two highr degrees of glory, the Celestial and the Terrestial kingdoms. Those in the lower Telestial kingdom never get to see Jesus again, nor “Heavenly Father”

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It seems to me it is you who assumes Jesus will bring everyone.

Why should the slacker be rewards as well as those who strive to do the things asked them to do?

Each reward is according how much oil they have in their lamps!


55 posted on 03/24/2010 4:05:15 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
Each reward is according how much oil they have in their lamps!

REsty, you yourself just said a few posts back that all degrees of glory are included.

You: "You know the Father house is very spacious and therefore it covers all degrees of glory!"

56 posted on 03/24/2010 4:16:40 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: restornu
Why should the slacker be rewards as well as those who strive to do the things asked them to do?

So, it's true - you believe in earning your way to heaven rather than grace.

57 posted on 03/24/2010 4:18:20 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: restornu

Gotta go for a few hours


58 posted on 03/24/2010 4:18:40 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

Don’t confused Salvation is by grace.

Where you end up is by how much light you have in your lamp!

You may dismiss the degree of glory but one can only go so far as they can receive light!


59 posted on 03/24/2010 4:27:17 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
Matthew 20:1-16

1 "For the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2 After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the market place; 4 and to them he said, `You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.' So they went. 5 Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing; and he said to them, `Why do you stand here idle all day?' 7 They said to him, `Because no one has hired us.' He said to them, `You go into the vineyard too.' 8 And when evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his steward, `Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last, up to the first.' 9 And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius. 10 Now when the first came, they thought they would receive more; but each of them also received a denarius. 11 And on receiving it they grumbled at the householder, 12 saying, `These last worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.' 13 But he replied to one of them, `Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14 Take what belongs to you, and go; I choose to give to this last as I give to you. 15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?' 16 So the last will be first, and the first last."

60 posted on 03/24/2010 4:29:25 PM PDT by delacoert
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