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To: eleni121
not sure why Islam is not included on this Roman Catholic list. Most Christians I know consider it a heresy, esp given its origins.

Excellent point. Indeed Islam is a heresy.

11 posted on 03/21/2010 4:45:37 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

To me, it sounds as if it is not:

“Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him” (CCC 2089).”

Doesn’t the above exclude Islam? Or am I wrong?


52 posted on 03/23/2010 5:26:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer
"Indeed Islam is a heresy. "

Not according to your article. According to your article from the Catholic Education site that carriers the NIHIL OBSTAT, heresy requires that the proposed heretical claim be held and professed by one who is Baptised. Since the Islamics don't practice Baptism, their claims are simply another religion and not a heresy.

From the article: "A person must be baptized to commit heresy. This means that movements that have split off from or been influenced by Christianity, but that do not practice baptism (or do not practice valid baptism), are not heresies, but separate religions. Examples include Muslims, who do not practice baptism, and Jehovah's Witnesses, who do not practice valid baptism."

275 posted on 03/25/2010 9:11:32 PM PDT by spunkets
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