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To: betty boop
There is no murder rate among lions. Lions do not commit murder; that would mean they are killing other lions.

Incorrect. The first thing that a male African lion does when he takes over a pride is to kill all the cubs of his predecessor, thus maximizing his own reproductive success.

37 posted on 03/19/2010 9:52:43 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814; Alamo-Girl; shibumi; SeekAndFind; Quix; spirited irish; Salamander; ...
Incorrect. The first thing that a male African lion does when he takes over a pride is to kill all the cubs of his predecessor, thus maximizing his own reproductive success.

My assertion was that "there is no murder rate among lions." I stand by it.

So ascendent male African lions kill [male?] cubs to ensure their reproductive success. This behavior is not universal to all African lions [I understand the females of the species do not do this]. It seems to me that if this behavior serves a natural end, it is not "murder." By "natural end," here I mean an end (goal or purpose) which is not "willed" by the particular lion [for lions do not "will"]. Rather the behavior in question reflects the execution of a "program" (if I might put it that way) which is inherent in the species, which tends to increase species fitness over time.

Thank you for your correction, GL of Sector 2814; but it does not make Professor Ruse's analogy of lion behavior and Detroit thug behavior [which is self-willed] as equivalent examples of "murder" any stronger, or any truer. It is a false analogy from the get-go; it is moreover a demonstration of fallacious reasoning. For it presupposes an equivalency between two inequivalent things. I.e., African lions and Detroit thugs.

51 posted on 03/20/2010 9:12:55 AM PDT by betty boop (Moral law is not rooted in factual laws of nature; they only tell us what happens, not what ought to)
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