Posted on 03/17/2010 2:50:32 PM PDT by reaganaut
LOL
Joey Smith and somer buddies were in a canoe that tipped over and they almost got drowned
One of the idiots with him decided that he saw the devil at the time or something...
So from that idiot joey smith wrote a doctrine denouncing the waters and that its dangerous to travel on water...
However thaty didnt include CANALS (as in Erie etc) where you could just as easily get drowned LOL
Anyhoo, missionaries are not allowed to go swimming while they are on a mission etc...
Which base ???
How very romantic :-)
My ancestors also came over from Ireland but in the 1850’s. We have names and facts but no stories.
I’m sure they’ve all been posthumously baptised into the LDS church by now.
By 1890 the Church in St. George realized it had made a big mistake in accepting wine and grapes in its tithing office.
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In SLC Brigham Young accepted a black slave as a tithe...
His name was Green flakes and he was brought to Utah by his “owners”
he actually drove the carriage Brigham Young travelled in ...
So BY knew there were slaves in his theocracy...
After a few years his “massa” died so the widow gave him as her tithe to the mormon corporation...
BY didnt say no...
Later he escaped into California...
Hill
Proof. Let’s start with Archaeological proof of ANYTHING in the BoM (nope), how about 100% true prophecies (req’d in the Bible) from the LDS ‘prophets’ (nope), how about the gold plates (nope), how about the Book of Abraham matching the scrolls (nope), the bones of Zelph (nada).
Then you cite “moroni’s promise” and claim personal revelation. Let’s look at that closer, shall we? Moroni’s promise is self fulfilling. If you do not get the answer the Missionaries tell you there must be something wrong with YOU, not the BoM.
It assumes you will know it is ‘true’ if you have...
a sincere heart,
real intent,
having faith in Christ,
THEN he will manifest the truth of it unto you.
Christians accept the idea of personal revelation but we recognize that if a revelation DOES NOT AGREE with the Bible, then it is NOT OF GOD.
Praying the BoM is ‘true’ is NOT BIBLICAL. God doesn’t tell us to pray to determine if something is true, we are told to compare doctrines with Scripture (the Bible) to judge if it is true.
Our feelings can and do lead us astray and therefore is not a good marker if something is ‘true’ or not.
He married a girl who was born here of Palatine Germans who had arrived in July 1710...
She was a heroine also in her own right...
20 years after her hero husband had died foir his country, the American revolution arrived on her doorstep...
She was arrested and put into a rebal/Patriot prison in Albany along with her children and young grandchildren...
her trading post and lands were burnt and confiscated...
When the house burnt an invalid son was trapped inside and died...
a granddaughter died in the prison...
They were let out of prison because St Leger was coming..
they escaped north to canada with him...
She went on to be a heroine as a Loyalist...
She spoke the Mohawk languages and was sent back down by herself to the “castles” on the Mohawk River to convince them to help the British..
and she came down a second time to warn them to escape into Canada towards the end of the war as the white men would go back to killing them
She is credited with saving many lives..
another son was wounded that time at Stone Arabia
She is listed by the UELAC as a Loyalist...
I can get a certificate for her
I have FIVE Loyalist ancestors...
:)
United Empire Loyalist Association of Canada
Do you agree with the author one should not pray to God to know whether the Book of Mormon is true?
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I do. To pray about a book that contradicts the Bible is not necessary and unscriptural.
The Bereans SEARCHED the Scriptures, not prayed about them and nowhere in the Bible are we told to.
Do you pray to know if robbing a bank is wrong?
IIRC, magritte is an ex-Christian who is now Noachide (’righteous gentile’).
I’m sure they’ve all been posthumously baptised into the LDS church by now.
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I know most of mine have been...
against their will and 1st Amendment rights...
Whats one small bucket of water when the mormons dead dunk your whole body...
and after youre dead so you cant fight back and protect yourself...
at least Saundra’s friend lived to tell about it...
Great post...
Is there a verse about the “burning-in-the-bosum” ???
Or is that just made up tradition and not doctrine ???
wow, our family geneology is just a bunch of dry facts.
We can trace our German side back to Germany at the time of the French Revolution, then we just disappear.
We used to like to imagine that we were French Nobility who fled France (figures) and reinvented ourselves in Germany.
Oh well, between the French wine and the German and Irish beer, I could never be a Mormon!
If your family were Huguenots they may well have been French nobility...
Huguenote fled into the Protestant countries...Germany, Holland, England etc...
They changed the spelling etc of their names to hide out in the new country...
Ive got lots of beer and wine in my veins from my tavern owning beer making ancestors
One ancestor had a trading post where he would have made his good German beer..
LOL
One of my ancestors made some of the first beer in NYC...
Red Lion Beer...
He had a tavern near Wall street..
He was mentioned with his tavern in a PBS program about early NYC about a or so ago year ago...
His name was Isaac De Forest...
My 8th g grandfather...
I wont
I have some of those too
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GOtta put my French/Irish/German-American self to bed. Good night. You’re a blessing to me :-)
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