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Are Anti-Mormons Christians?
FAIR ^ | Russell McGregor

Posted on 03/16/2010 10:51:13 AM PDT by Paragon Defender

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To: Saundra Duffy
LDS Missionaries are always loving and kind.

I'm sure that they are...

http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=27141

461 posted on 03/17/2010 12:34:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I appreciate that you posted this article but I am saddened by some of the vicious comments.

Don't be GUTLESS!!

Name names!

462 posted on 03/17/2010 12:35:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Some of them are really really ugly, though, and over the top.

Don't be GUTLESS!!

Name names!

463 posted on 03/17/2010 12:36:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
They hate us but don’t even know why.

Don't be GUTLESS!!

Name names!

464 posted on 03/17/2010 12:36:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
The Snarky Troll Patrol.

When things really, REALLY need to be slick!

465 posted on 03/17/2010 12:37:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut

Comin’ up!


466 posted on 03/17/2010 12:38:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Saundra Duffy

Gutless? Not only does she not name names, but I asked her to explain the “gospel” she so dearly loves.......

....no response.

Why am I not surprised?


467 posted on 03/17/2010 12:39:17 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

A lot of bigots, what ever happened to the statement. “When Ever Three Of You gather in my Name!”, as the definition of a Christian.


468 posted on 03/17/2010 12:39:48 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: ejonesie22
Actually no, they are not. They are an expertly trained sales force representing the LDS Inc.

Bears repeating!!

And, I might add, the actual harm being done to these young people is a result of the mormon church pinching pennies in regards to food, shelter and medical care for these missionaries. Salt Lake can build billion-dollar malls and million-dollar temples, yet even though funds are provided by the missionaries and their families for their missionaries, these funds are controlled by the mormon church. The living conditions of some missionaries are horror stories.

 

These are just a few of horror stories from ex-LDS-missionaries...more and a very graphic post that won't last in the Religion Forum can be found at 

http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/download_thread.php?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery&thread=1268669690

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Just got photos from my son in South America and I'm really ticked off...

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Mar 15 12:14

He sent us mission photos of his bedroom, and it is worse than the worst slum I've ever seen. I can't believe the church feels ok about having their missionaries live in such poor conditions. What a greedy bunch of misers.


After those two missionaries died from CO poisoning, I can see how you would be concerned. My question would be--is it hazardous? I've heard stories on this board of missionaries getting shocked in the showers, etc. Or is it rundown and dirty?


Horrible peeling paint walls with cracks, poor lighting, a bed that he doesn't fit on, they go elsewhere to shower. Not sure about the hazard factor, but it looks much worse than any apartment I ever lived in. Gross!


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One of my GFs served in Peru on her mission. She sent me photos that were

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Mar 15 22:52

unbelievable. Her and her companion lived in a wooden shack with nothing between the inside and outside but wooden slats that were no longer fitting tightly together. They wet some newspaper and plugged all of the slots the air was creeping in from the outside and then layered newspapers over the boards for extra wind protection.

In another photo, here is my friend with multiple layers of clothing on in order to keep warm as the shack they lived in had no heater. NO HEAT!

The photo shows only a chair next to a wooden table. It does not show what she slept on in the way of a bed.

The accommodations are atrocious.

If your son was my son, I'd be on a plane heading his direction with his ticket home in my purse. LDS church be damned!


My ex mo husband told me horror stories of his mission..everything I learned about doing without food came straight from his mouth..saurkraut juice so they wouldnm't be hungry and their stomachs would shrink...days without food and the bitter cold in Canada..I would never let a child of mine suffer that way...God sure didn't plan for us children to live that way while calling ignorant people to his service...it stinks

 

Since the day of the Prophet Joseph Smith, we've had approximately 447,969 missionaries serve in the world," Elder M. Russell Ballard said in 1989. "Of those 447,969, (some) 525 have lost their lives while serving as full-time missionaries," he added. "When you contemplate that number, it appears that the safest place in the whole world is to be on a full-time mission," concluded the member of the Twelve.

 



469 posted on 03/17/2010 12:41:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: colorcountry
But did anyone actually throw water on you? Until then you just can’t know persecution.

Don't get 'em WET!

470 posted on 03/17/2010 12:41:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla; Saundra Duffy

They thought nothing about throwing rocks or other things at Americans - so it is likely your ‘sister’ was ‘persecuted’ for being an American.

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When we lived in communist Eastern Europe (1980’s), I was constantly insulted and spit on because I was an American.

You are most likely right, ‘zilla.


471 posted on 03/17/2010 12:42:00 PM PDT by reaganaut (Don't mind me, I did a little to much LDS in the 80's (Star Trek IV reference))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sorry rocklobster: this posting probably drives you NUTS!


472 posted on 03/17/2010 12:43:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I knew I could count on you, “honey”. ;)


473 posted on 03/17/2010 12:45:02 PM PDT by reaganaut (Don't mind me, I did a little to much LDS in the 80's (Star Trek IV reference))
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To: Little Bill
A lot of bigots, what ever happened to the statement. “When Ever Three Of You gather in my Name!”, as the definition of a Christian.

Uh... the useage of it fell away because it wasn't true?

Matthew 18:20
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I among them.”

474 posted on 03/17/2010 12:45:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Little Bill
A lot of bigots, what ever happened to the statement. “When Ever Three Of You gather in my Name!”, as the definition of a Christian.

hellow lb

That was never the definition of a Christian - but was a promise made to Christians.

The issue here go far deeper than that. Do you consider anyone a bigot who tries to convince another to join their church?

475 posted on 03/17/2010 12:49:34 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Little Bill; ROCKLOBSTER

“When Ever Three Of You gather in my Name!”, as the definition of a Christian.

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It doesn’t apply to those who trash the name of Christ or twist the Bible and turn Jesus into something unrecognizable.

I used to be LDS, I speak from experience, not ignorance or hatred.

If the LDS want to be considered Christian, then their history/doctrines/teachings are up to the exact same scrutiny of any other group wanting to be called Christian.

If they can’t handle the scrutiny/objections then, real simple, QUIT CLAIMING TO BE ‘JUST ANOTHER CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION’.

But claiming that we are bigots because we are holding the LDS to the same orthodoxy standard we hold other Christian denominations to shows that the LDS want the perks without the work and that the LDS thinks they can ‘pull one over’ on Christians.

Now, tell me how I am a ‘bigot’ again?


476 posted on 03/17/2010 12:49:39 PM PDT by reaganaut (Don't mind me, I did a little to much LDS in the 80's (Star Trek IV reference))
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To: Saundra Duffy

Loving and serving them how?

Knocking on their doors, insisting that they take literature they don’t want, like the LDS who do that to me?

If she’s rejoicing for being persecuted, why do you get so bent out of shape over it?

All she did was get wet and as far as I can tell, it may not have even had anything to do with her proselytizing, so might not even count as persecution.


477 posted on 03/17/2010 12:51:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: colorcountry

” I’ve been spat upon, had things grabbed from my hand and thrown to the ground, I’ve been pushed and pulled, I’ve been yelled at and called names. “

No Mormon would do any of those things. Nope. Nope and nope. I am sorry those things happened to you but don’t try to blame it on Mormons.

When I was in Salt Lake City at Temple Square last summer there was this young man with white face paint and he was wearing Temple garb. I guess he was protesting or something and I asked him if he was a Mormon and he said, “You bet.” I have no idea why he was there. It was just very strange.

I have seen some of the anti Mormon protesters at General Conference on YouTube and the Mormons passing by pretty much ignored them. BTW some of the anti Mormons are satanic looking and acting.

Peace.


478 posted on 03/17/2010 12:54:08 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: metmom; Saundra Duffy

If she’s rejoicing for being persecuted, why do you get so bent out of shape over it?

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The LDS get bent out of shape about it because it makes them feel ‘special’ and reinforces the lie they tell themselves that the Mormon church is the ‘only true Church’.

My experience, not just my opinion.


479 posted on 03/17/2010 12:54:45 PM PDT by reaganaut (Don't mind me, I did a little to much LDS in the 80's (Star Trek IV reference))
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To: Saundra Duffy; greyfoxx39
LDS Missionaries are always loving and kind. That’s what they do.

They are pleasant and smile at the door, but like I said before, when I tell them I read the Bible and have a church I like that I regularly attend, they still INSIST on leaving literature. I wouldn't go as far as to say loving and kind because all they've ever done is preach at me. They've never gone out of their way to show love or kindness.

I've tried turning it down and they just won't accept it. So now I take it and say thank you and feed it to the paper shredder as soon as they're gone.

If that's the kind of persistence that this guy encountered from them, then I understand his frustration and they're really lucky that nobody has done worse to them yet.

480 posted on 03/17/2010 12:57:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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