Then you better revise how you address the point. Since you cannot specify the denomination and only rely upon some poorly educated 'evangelical' friends, you question has no foundation.
There were like 60 there that night. when most of the congregation found out that I was Mormon, they glared at me.
Again - an unspecified denomination. Perhaps you were very self conscience and feeling out of place. How did they find out - did you tell them? may be they were waiting for a tail and horns (/sarc)
The preacher very specifically said that it wasn’t by grace alone, that we needed to have works to be saved.
again - an amorphic 'church' denomination (but it has 'evangelical' in its name). Unless you can come up with some FACTS I am not inclined to believe your story. Can you supply those facts?
Godzilla: again - an amorphic 'church' denomination (but it has 'evangelical' in its name). Unless you can come up with some FACTS I am not inclined to believe your story. Can you supply those facts?
From Urroner's original post #862:
I have had several Evangelical friends tell me that they believe that it’s not grace alone, though they are in the minority.
This one friend invited me to attend a Wednesday meeting at her church. I don’t know what congregation she went to. This was several years ago and it was a small congregation only about 100 or so members that attended regularly. There were like 60 there that night. when most of the congregation found out that I was Mormon, they glared at me.
The preacher very specifically said that it wasn’t by grace alone, that we needed to have works to be saved. He even used the phrase that I know upsets a lot of “grace only” type people, and that was “cheap grace.” That is why I even remember the sermon. I never thought I would ever hear an evangelical preacher use the term “cheap grace.”
862 posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:51:38 PM by urroner
NOTES: Later posts by urroner bring out the facts about this visit to an Evangelical church where he was treated so "badly",
1. "One of the congregation is an acquaintance and he announced to all, in a rather disdainful way, that I was Mormon." Post #878
2. "The dude who “accused” me of being Mormon, say it something like “Lynn, you’re Mormon, aren’t you. Don’t deny it. What are you doing here?” The preacher apologized to me. Post #883
3. "But I was asked one time in one congregation by the preacher when I was introduced to him if I was Mormon. I said yes and asked him why and he said, “Oh, white shirt and tie.” “Guilty as charged.”
4. "It wasn’t my friend. It was somebody who lived a couple of blocks away and I had met him and his family several times at school functions. Like I said, he was an acquaintance. There are people like him everywhere." Post #887
5. "As an add on to my previous post, I have to several Evangelical congregations and this is the only time I was confronted like that. "
6. "the preacher, IIRC, was relatively new to the area and the previous preacher was a gung ho, hellfire and damnation type". -SNIP- "The new preacher was trying to change that attitude' Post #889-
SO...The original post tells a story of "when most of the congregation found out that I was Mormon, they glared at me."
Further comments show the fact that "One of the congregation is an acquaintance and he announced to all, in a rather disdainful way, that I was Mormon."
Urroner was in the "mormon" uniform of "white shirt and tie"...now it may be that the Evangelical congregation was wearing more casual wear, and someone in a tie would naturally stand out. People would naturally take notice of someone different...were they all "glaring"?
Urroner states: "Like I said, he was an acquaintance. There are people like him everywhere." Urroner additionally states The preacher apologized to me. Urroner then states "the previous preacher was a gung ho, hellfire and damnation type".......and "The new preacher was trying to change that attitude' "
The original story has morphed from "I was glared at because I was a mormon", condemning this unnamed Evangelical church (which was trying to change the tone of a previous hardline preacher). of being bigoted (and insinuating that all Evangelical churches are bigoted by association), to a story in which Urroner went to a strange church in the mormon uniform which brought attention to him, an acquaintance ("there are people like him everywhere") announced he was mormon, after which the preacher apologized to him and "this is the only time I was confronted like that. "
The facts as now provided by Urroner himself, hardly substantiate Urroner's original claim of being subjected to "bigotry" by an Evangelical church , which denomination he cannot name, congregation.
If we had not questioned him further about the original claim, it would have stood as a description of a "nasty unwelcoming Evangelical congregation "glaring" at a mormon visitor "because he was mormon."