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To: urroner; reaganaut
So what if God told you. Apparently He never got around to telling many of my ancestors from 6,000 years ago about any gift of His.

Don’t you see that as a problem?

I don't see the problem. But I've read Romans. Maybe you should - and throw in a hefty dose of Hebrews while you're at it.

791 posted on 03/23/2010 1:23:01 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry; urroner; reaganaut

I don’t see the problem. But I’ve read Romans. Maybe you should - and throw in a hefty dose of Hebrews while you’re at it.

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Exactly, Romans is very clear on it.

But then the LDS have to create this false dichotomy in order their unbiblical doctrines to have any logical support.


792 posted on 03/23/2010 1:26:25 PM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: colorcountry

I have read both Romans and Hebrews many times each. Which parts of them should I be looking at closer and what should I be understanding as I read them?

BTW, would a loving God cast a soul into eternal damnation for not doing something that the soul couldn’t do.

For example, I am this tyrant of a kingdom and I say to one and all that I am a loving, kind, and benevolent tyrant. I walk into an elementary school one day and I ask a bunch of pre-Kers on their first day of school ever, to start performing differential equations from an advanced math book. I look at the children and the teacher and say,

“Look, I provided a gift for all of you, a fine math book, and you guys rejected it. I going to subject you all to violent torture for the rest of your lives. The punishment must fit the crime.”

“But Mr. Benevolent Tyrant, I never got the gift, in fact, I never heard of the gift.”

“I don’t care. That is not my problem. I sent the books to you, as a gift, and you rejected them. Your ingratitude has incurred my wrath.”

“But Mr. Loving Tyrant, where did you send the gift?”

“I sent it them all to the other side of the world.”

“But, Mr. Charitable Tyrant, how were we suppose to get the gift if you sent it to the other side of the world?”

“Sorry, not my problem, it’s your problem. Oh, and one other thing, I haven’t even printed up the books yet, but, then again, that’s not my problem, it’s somebody else’s problem, like yours. Since I am the loving, benevolent, all-caring tyrant and I love you all very much, I would never harm a single one of you unless you did something to incur my wrath and your rejection of my gift to you is more than sufficient to incur my wrath.”

“Guards, haul them all away and begin torturing them with exquisite, inexplicable, beyond belief pain and yada, yada, yada. Remember, it’s all for my pleasure. I am in control of everything.”

Well CC, thinking about it, I don’t see a problem there either. What was I thinking?


796 posted on 03/23/2010 2:00:52 PM PDT by urroner
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