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To: urroner
It doesn’t matter if the Bible is a book of books, to use an items to testify for itself that it’s inerrant is called circular logic.

different books - your argument falls flat

BTW, throughout the history of the people of God, as recorded in the Bible, started with Adam and Eve, there are plenty of instances where people rejected God and chose a different path. Did God fail during those rejections?

No, they failed God....God of course is unchanging

Was the Reformation of the late Middle ages necessary started by Calvin, Wesley, and Luther?

actually it was just Luther - but thats another thread - Did God use it to reach even more people? .....Now at this point you''' say - well the same is true for mormonism....BUT, again, Mormonism takes on a pile of heretical doctrine that change the very Nature of God / Christ and the HS.....you are blind to it though because that would mean your entire belief system was wrong.....your subconscious ego will reject it

You say that the Bible itself says that it’s the complete blueprint for salvation, but they Bible doesn’t say that outright, only with great inference will one be able to find that in the Bible.

Really....really ? - A plain reading of the Bible verses below simply detail that very plan - (and you dont need peep stones)

God's Plan of Salvation

1 John 5:11-12 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has this eternal life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this eternal life.

Man’s Problem

Separation From God

Isaiah 59:2 But your sinful acts have alienated you from your God; your sins have caused him to reject you and not listen to your prayers.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Habakkuk 1:13a You are too just to tolerate evil; you are unable to condone wrongdoing

The Futility of Our Works

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 it is not of works, so that no one can boast.

Titus 3:5-7 he saved us, not by works of righteousness that we have done but on the basis of his mercy, through the washing of the new birth and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us in full measure through Jesus Christ our Savior. 7 And so, since we have been justified by his grace, we become heirs with the confident expectation of eternal life.

Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say that Abraham, our ancestor according to the flesh, has discovered regarding this matter? 2 For if Abraham was declared righteous by the works of the law, he has something to boast about (but not before God). 3 For what does the scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his pay is not credited due to grace but due to obligation. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous, his faith is credited as righteousness.

God’s Solution

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 1:4 who was appointed the Son-of-God-in-power according to the Holy Spirit by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 4:25 He was given over because of our transgressions and was raised for the sake of our justification.

2 Corinthians 5:21 God made the one who knew no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we would become the right-eousness of God.

1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, to bring you to God, by being put to death in the flesh but by being made alive in the spirit.

How Do We Receive God’s Son?

John 1:12 But to all who have received him--those who believe in his name--he has given the right to become God's children

John 3:16-18 For this is the way God loved the world: he gave his one and only Son that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

so you discount Biblical prophets, you discount one book proving the inerrancy of other prophets, you claim the plan is not readily visible without great inference.....whats next ur, what will you discount now?

youve been cheated - and thats a damned shame

688 posted on 03/23/2010 6:26:52 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: urroner

i hear plenty of crickets -


945 posted on 03/24/2010 3:24:16 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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