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To: Ken4TA

Interesting that you think Abraham’s Bosom is just and opinion of man, or that a grat gulf fixed is just an opinion of man, or that the Abyss is just an opinion of man, or that the place where some fallen angels are kept chained are just an opinion of man.

It might help to search Scripture and make a list of all the verses in which the underworld are referenced and take notes as to the occupants and distinctions from other portions thereof, by which even the soulish man is able to learn about their existence. Or simply refuse to accept what God provides and their location might become a bit more intuitive of those men who choose not to form an “opinion”.


134 posted on 04/03/2010 6:51:45 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
It might help to search Scripture and make a list of all the verses in which the underworld are referenced and take notes as to the occupants and distinctions from other portions thereof, by which even the soulish man is able to learn about their existence.

I have spent 35+ years studying the meaning of the Hebrew "sheol", the Greek "hades" and the English term "hell" along with its accumulation of descriptions over the centuries. The OT depicts "sheol" as the abode of the dead, the grave. Never does it depict those in it as being tormented or tortured, in fact, it is only the dead who go there - both the righteous and unrighteous! The NT "hades" depicts the same as it is the translation of the Hebrew term "sheol".

1) Abraham’s Bosom, also known as Paradise or the abode of OT believers after the first death prior to the Resurrection. Separated from the Torments by a great gulf fixed.
2) The Torments, or the place or abode of all unbelievers after the first death prior to the Great White Throne Judgment.

Many read Luke 16:19-31 as THE proof of (to use your words, TORMENT), everlasting punishment for the unrighteous, and also Paradise for the righteous - with a gulf fixed between them. Read the two links about this: Article One. Article Two. You should learn something from them if you really read and investigate what they say!

3) Tartarus, or a prison for some fallen angels.
4) The Abyss, location of criminal fallen angels, from which some will be released at the middle of the Great Tribulation.

Tartarus is not "hell" by any means. It is simply the abode of those angels who are confined until Judgment Day. Your No. 3 is wrong in one part - it is for ALL fallen angels. No. 4 is simply an opinion of man, and never found in the Bible.

And for your enjoyment, here is another article worth your time reading. A word about Paradise. Again, You should learn something from this article if you really read and investigate what it says!

Thusly, my last words in my previous post to you stands. "You do not find what you said in the Bible."

135 posted on 04/03/2010 5:47:27 PM PDT by Ken4TA
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