Don't View Any Period of Church History as Perfect, Nor Any Particular Group of Christians

Grace Gems ^ | 1998 | Darryl M. Erkel

[kosciusko51]

All the early converts declared "Jesus is LORD", which, as I understand it, is saying that He is God. Jesus says the Holy Spirit will come to comfort the apostles. The Spirit descends as a Dove when Jesus is baptized, and a voice called out from Heaven to Jesus saying, "You are my son (my heir) in who I am well pleased."

The Trinity was there the whole time.

[kosciusko51]

Christianity today bears no resemblance to the early church

No resemblance?As I see it, neither does Judaism bear much resemblance to the Temple-worshiping Jews of the first century.

and those that disagreed were apostates and heretics and subsequently killed ....

I don't remember a lot of heretic killing by the Church until after the Roman emperor Constantine supposedly became a Christian. IIRC, I think that it was Christians being killed as apostates and heretics by both Jews and Romans. In the first century AD, it was a lot easier not to be a Christian than to be one.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

All the early converts declared "Jesus is LORD", which, as I understand it, is saying that He is God. Jesus says the Holy Spirit will come to comfort the apostles. The Spirit descends as a Dove when Jesus is baptized, and a voice called out from Heaven to Jesus saying, "You are my son (my heir) in who I am well pleased." The Trinity was there the whole time.

I'm happy for ya.

[SkyDancer]

Yep, we Jews do have different denominations as well. And true to point, it was after some of those early meetings where defense of Christianity was being sorted out. Early Christians were certainly being sought out and killed. Then came Constantine and all was well, sorta ....

BTW, I'm a Messianic Jew ....crazy, huh?

[kosciusko51]

Cool. I've known a few Messianic Jews. I went to a Messianic Seder many years ago. Quite the experience, and brings new meaning to the Last Supper.

I may misspell this, but "Baruch havah b'Shem Adonai!"

[kosciusko51]

I am glad that you are happy for me. I wish you the same happiness!

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I am glad that you are happy for me. I wish you the same happiness!

I'm really glad that you're glad that I'm happy for ya. :-)

[bronx2]

After the death of the apostles (about 60 CE to 80 CE) it was about 250 years before Christianity became legal (about 313 CE). That is longer than the existence of the USA. So, pray tell how did these Christians exercise any legal authority to kill “Apostates” when it was illegal for anyone to be Christian. Disabuse yourself of these fictional nonsensical ideas and read history written by objective sources. The early church fathers wrote histories most of which are accepted by secular sources.

[SkyDancer]

Pretty close. It’s more like “B’ruchim habaim b’shem Adonai” Blessed are you who comes in the name of the Lord.

[mrreaganaut]

“The analogy would be that a group of GM employees left, built their own factory, and began making cars. At the same time, they hired a bunch of ex-Ford and Chrysler employees to learn their way of making cars.”
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So you’re saying that we’re Saturns? :)

[Quix]

WELL PUT.

THX.