March 6
Posted on 03/06/2010 3:52:39 PM PST by NYer
March 6
FATHER CORAPI'S CONVERSION STORY
Father John Corapi is a member of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity. The pillars of his preaching are love for the Blessed Virgin Mary which leads to a loving relationship with Jesus Christ and great love and reverence for the Holy Eucharist, as well as an uncompromising love for and obedience to the Holy Father and the teaching of the Magisterium of the Church. His widely acclaimed series on the Catechism of the Catholic Church entitled The Teaching of Jesus Christ is used throughout the world as a course in religious education and catechesis. more »
More about Father John Corapi's Amazing Story
Father John Corapi's Amazing Story is just that: amazing. You'll have to listen to it yourself to appreciate how one man can go from the utter depths of despair to the heights of supernatural contentment.
Because it was the first recording released to the general public featuring Father JohnCorapi, virtually no one in America knew who he was at the time. Of course, Father John Corapi has since become one of the most influential Catholic speakers of our times, appearing at countless conferences, parish missions, as well as regularly on EWTN, the global Catholic television network.
Many believe that he has the ineffable power of God fueling his speaking ability, giving him supernatural influence beyond the meaning of his words.
I enjoy listening to Fr Corapi, and I’m not even a Christian.
Thank you for posting that link!
The utter beauty and freedom of the Gospel of Christ (as compared to the chains of Roman Catholicism) is that penance is neither necessary nor possible.
"But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe; for there is no distinction; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, beiing justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;..."
Notice, no penance, no confessional, no priesthood and certainly no pope involved. Rome has manufactured its own self-righteousness which is another gospel...from the darkness. We invite those enslaved to the Roman cult to come out into the light of Christ alone...if you can.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
In spite of the LaZBoy throne in the hall of sports worship on Sundays, it is still not enough for him. Perhaps he may read Scripture at some point in either boredom or despair.
The one fact that is in evidence is his public flaunting of his ignorance.
Big deal. I was corrected recently on my own ignorance of reading icons in public fashion. Ignorance can be remedied. Stupidity, very often, cannot be.
I admire your constancy, sir. It is a gift to be so wrong so often, in so many ways. Do you have your Bible handy?
Acts 7: 51 "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always oppose the holy Spirit; you are just like your ancestors. 52 Which of the prophets did your ancestors not persecute? They put to death those who foretold the coming of the righteous one, whose betrayers and murderers you have now become. 53 You received the law as transmitted by angels, but you did not observe it." 54 When they heard this, they were infuriated, and they ground their teeth at him.
But on to penance. The precedence is set in:
Numbers 5: 6 "Tell the Israelites: If a man (or a woman) commits a fault against his fellow man and wrongs him, thus breaking faith with the LORD, 7 he shall confess the wrong he has done, restore his ill-gotten goods in full, and in addition give one fifth of their value to the one he has wronged. 8 3 However, if the latter has no next of kin to whom restoration of the ill-gotten goods can be made, the goods to be restored shall be the LORD'S and shall fall to the priest; this is apart from the atonement ram with which the priest makes amends for the guilty man.
Leviticus 4-7 is even more explicit - with penance instructions for individual men, for priests, and for princes.
And what does the NT bring? Matthew 5: 6 23 Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar, and there recall that your brother has anything against you, 24 leave your gift there at the altar, go first and be reconciled with your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Settle with your opponent quickly while on the way to court with him. Otherwise your opponent will hand you over to the judge, and the judge will hand you over to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison. 26 Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.
The Lord's Prayer tells us to forgive those who have transgressed against us, and Matthew 18 tells us to forgive our brother in essentially unlimited fashion. Therefore, we are instructed to do penance to our brethren whom we wronged, and to forgive others their penance towards us.
Penance due God and penance due our fellow men.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Oh, I have a Bible handy...it is the thing that continues to expose the Roman error so routinely. Your first quote is so obviously taken out of context that it serves as a prime example of the destructive hermeneutic promulgated by Rome and its ignorant ilk.
Then you teach us Jewish Law as a practice for believing Gentiles. Obviously, you did not read the rest of the story (Eph. 2:11 - 16), but that has never stopped you from spouting the bizarre theology peddled by Rome.
We could only hope that some of the Roman constituents would actually cut off and tear out some of the appendages demanded by the tenets of Jewish Law for the failures that they inevitably commit. If they did at least they would be closer to demonstrating they actually believed the tripe they try to set upon the rest of the world. Instead, like Peter was compelled to spank the Judaizers, we need to chastize you patrons of Rome, "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we (especially the RCs) have been able to bear? But we (the real rescued believers) believe we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus,..." You probably cannot find this in the Bible, since it repudiates the silly self-justification of Rome.
But, please continue with that cultish practice of penance and other empty rituals certain to be destroyed in the final judgment. It makes the free and unearned grace of Jesus Christ so beautiful in contrast to the self-righteousness mistakenly held by Rome. Those called into the light of Christ will see this contrast and flee to the safety of His righteousness and away from Vatican darkness.
If one pounds a little less and reads a little more, there is no end of the revelation of God that one may encounter.
the destructive hermeneutic promulgated by Rome and its ignorant ilk.
We wrote the NT, we selected the version of each book, bound it, printed it, and via Gutenberg, brought it to the heretic, the apostate, the pagan and the ungrateful. We know what it means; innovative theologies are of no interest to Christians. Only the worship of God. You may wish to take your complaints to Dr. Phil.
But, please continue with that cultish practice of penance and other empty rituals certain to be destroyed in the final judgment.
We do not take or eschew action on your bidding; we pay attention to God and follow the Word of Jesus Christ. The Latin Church is responsible for the Reformers, it is true. The Orthodox did not let the heretics get to the point where they could form their own substantial churches. I'll tell that to Dr. Phil.
It makes the free and unearned grace of Jesus Christ so beautiful in contrast to the self-righteousness mistakenly held by Rome.
The only righteousness comes from God and His Grace in our hearts and souls. We do contrast the beauty of the Faith to the hate of the Reformers when called on to defend their own innovative beliefs. I will admit that to Dr. Phil.
Those called into the light of Christ will see this contrast and flee to the safety of His righteousness and away from Vatican darkness.
The love and the light of God do not sit well with the tenor of your post to me. I will tell Dr. Phil that I will pray that your heart be converted and you will become Christian. In spite of Reformed efforts to the contrary:
bttt
But, please continue with that cultish practice of penance and other empty rituals certain to be destroyed in the final judgment. It makes the free and unearned grace of Jesus Christ so beautiful in contrast to the self-righteousness mistakenly held by Rome. Those called into the light of Christ will see this contrast and flee to the safety of His righteousness and away from Vatican darkness.
AMEN!
FWIW, I can't stand this Corapi guy. Has anyone read his biography? He's an ex-drug addict. And that's not the least of his bone fides.
He's just gone from one addiction to another.
"Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? " -- Luke 6:39
Gotta go. Enjoy the day the Lord made, Saints!
Look Mark, posting a self-portrait will not, repeat not endear you to us no matter how cute you are.
Apparently it takes brains to be a bible denying, bible rejecting Catholic, eh???
I posted scripture on this thread...Scripture that contradicts what was posted about what scripture says to justify your religion...
Perhaps you don't recognize scripture when you see it...Perhaps you won't recognize a Bible if you ever see one... Bible begins with a B, not a C...
No? That's too bad...
Keep it up, Mark. We are laughing our heads off as the entire Roman Catholic organization heads toward basement cat.
Yup. Four verses or snippets of verse.
Scripture that contradicts what was posted about what scripture says to justify your religion
I don't have a religion. And I'm not sure what you mean by this sentence.
Perhaps you don't recognize scripture when you see it
And perhaps I do.
Perhaps you won't recognize a Bible if you ever see one.
Perhaps I will.
Bible begins with a B, not a C.
Perhaps I can enquire about purchasing tickets to observe your efforts in the National Spelling Bee.
Keep it up, Mark.
Thank you for the accolades, but it was not I that handled the writings, acceptance, and the keeping of Holy Scripture for the faithful, as well as bringing it to the heretic, the apostate, the pagan and the ungrateful.
In keeping with the theme on this thread, and the devotion of Father Corapi, let us see what St. Luke accomplished (after writing his Gospel and Acts):
The adoration of men for men is a dead giveaway that the real Gospel has escaped notice. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." a fact that wraps around Corapi's ankles and mine. But, the Roman cult continues to praise men while the real believers in Christ praise only God. Nevertheless, continue to entertain us with the pictures and pomp. It underscores our claims.
No, apparently it's not all that clear. According to some discussions I had with our Roman Catholic friends several weeks ago, there are five different Patriarchs making up the Catholic Church. Each Patriarch draws from an apostle and has an "equal" voice. For example, the Orthodox has another apostle that they trace their linage to.
The Pope represents the Roman Catholic Church portion of the entire Catholic Church. He is just one of five Patriarch of the Catholic Church on earth. He carries the same weigh in the Catholic Church as the rest. So your dispute wouldn't be with us Protestants who do not share this linage belief. Rather it seems to me that there is a serious disconnect in the Catholic Church as to who exactly is in control. Apparently Christ DID ask other apostles to "feed His sheep"-at least according to some.
This is true. In fact, some of the Patriarchs are also Cardinals.
The Pope represents the Roman Catholic Church portion of the entire Catholic Church.
Not true!
Although it is not widely known in our Western world, the Catholic Church is actually a communion of Churches. According to the Constitution on the Church of the Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, the Catholic Church is understood to be "a corporate body of Churches," united with the Pope of Rome, who serves as the guardian of unity (LG, no. 23). At present there are 22 Churches that comprise the Catholic Church. The new Code of Canon Law, promulgated by Pope John Paul II, uses the phrase "autonomous ritual Churches" to describe these various Churches (canon 112). Each Church has its own hierarchy, spirituality, and theological perspective. Because of the particularities of history, there is only one Western Catholic Church, while there are 21 Eastern Catholic Churches. The Western Church, known officially as the Latin Church, is the largest of the Catholic Churches. It is immediately subject to the Roman Pontiff as Patriarch of the West. The Eastern Catholic Churches are each led by a Patriarch, Major Archbishop, or Metropolitan, who governs their Church together with a synod of bishops. Through the Congregation for Oriental Churches, the Roman Pontiff works to assure the health and well-being of the Eastern Catholic Churches.
While this diversity within the one Catholic Church can appear confusing at first, it in no way compromises the Church's unity. In a certain sense, it is a reflection of the mystery of the Trinity. Just as God is three Persons, yet one God, so the Church is 22 Churches, yet one Church.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes this nicely:
"From the beginning, this one Church has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God's gifts and the diversity of those who receive them... Holding a rightful place in the communion of the Church there are also particular Churches that retain their own traditions. The great richness of such diversity is not opposed to the Church's unity" (CCC no. 814).
Although there are 22 Churches, there are only eight "Rites" that are used among them. A Rite is a "liturgical, theological, spiritual and disciplinary patrimony," (Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches, canon 28). "Rite" best refers to the liturgical and disciplinary traditions used in celebrating the sacraments. Many Eastern Catholic Churches use the same Rite, although they are distinct autonomous Churches. For example, the Ukrainian Catholic Church and the Melkite Catholic Church are distinct Churches with their own hierarchies. Yet they both use the Byzantine Rite.
To learn more about the "two lungs" of the Catholic Church, visit this link:
The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches, in order faithfully to preserve the fullness of Christian tradition" (Unitatis Redintegrato, 15).
A Roman rite Catholic may attend any Eastern Catholic Liturgy and fulfill his or her obligations at any Eastern Catholic Parish. A Roman rite Catholic may join any Eastern Catholic Parish and receive any sacrament from an Eastern Catholic priest, since all belong to the Catholic Church as a whole. I am a Roman Catholic practicing my faith at a Maronite Catholic Church. Like the Chaldeans, the Maronites retain Aramaic for the Consecration. It is as close as one comes to being at the Last Supper.
He carries the same weigh in the Catholic Church as the rest.
He is the final arbitrer. As the Orthodox prefer to refer to him, "he is first among equals". He is the successor of St. Peter.
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