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To: Jvette

Are you quoting 2 Timothy 4:3-4 about me, just in general, or about Catholics?

I would think it applies more to the latter two, but that is just my opinion.

I don’t hate Catholics, or the Catholic Church. I just disagree with many of their doctrines and am extremely glad they are not in political control in America as they were at times in Europe.


211 posted on 03/05/2010 1:23:54 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver

It does not reference the Catholic church.

Rather, it would seem to be about the reformation.

People will not tolerate sound doctrine, and following their own desires and insatiable curiosity will accumulate many teachers and will stop listening to the truth, and will be diverted to myths.

Catholic doctrine rejected
Place own desires over sound doctrine
Thousands of Protestant denominations where by one can pick and choose beliefs or be drawn away by those who would tickle their ears saying what one wants to hear and not firm truth
Diverted to myths or erroneous understandings of the Church

It was not instituted by Constantine
The Apocrypha was not introduced in the 1200s but was confirmed as Scriptural Canon in response to its removal by Luther
Papal Supremacy was recognized in the first century as evidenced by the bishops writing to Clement in Rome
for support and guidance

It is your claim that you know and understand Scriptures all on your own with the help of the Holy Spirit. I contend that cannot be true as even Scripture acknowledges that one must be taught its meaning. The eunuch says in Acts, “how can I know, lest someone teach me?”

Even the Apostles had to have a teacher, Jesus and later the Holy Spirit, otherwise they would not have known who and what He is. Every Christian has come to knowledge of Christ through the teaching of someone else. If one adheres to a Protestant understanding of Scripture, then one has accepted the teachings of someone who disagreed with the teachings of others before him.

Even your “list” posted as a mockery of Catholic teaching was the work of someone else.


215 posted on 03/05/2010 2:05:51 PM PST by Jvette
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To: srweaver
As a Catholic I would prefer any God loving servant in control. Obviously Obama is not Catholic and you are glad? Catholicism brought a grand renaissance to Europe, sadly most now lost and devoid their faith. I love the fact that no Catholic teacher or priest has ever taught animosity towards fellow Christians. My fear of God would never allow me to sway anybody from their faith in God in any religion.

When I was little a Jehovah Witness told me the Pope was the devil, and scared the **** out of me. I have no doubt that because of that, I strayed from God, and I now pray for her soul may she rest in peace. She was later diagnosed with a mental illness, before she passed away. Jesus did say, you are better off with an anchor around your neck, than to take away the faith of my children.

I was naive in placing my child in a Christian school. I had no idea how rampant the animosity was. I guess I should have known better from my childhood experience. We live and we learn.

229 posted on 03/05/2010 3:36:43 PM PST by mgist
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