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To: conservonator

You wrote: “I urge you to read scripture the way it was meant to be read, through the eyes of the Church from which it was produced through the benevolence of God.”

The scriptures state:

Paslm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Matthew 5:18, 19 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Matthew 26:54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

Jesus was able to define His life by the Scriptures, because it is the Word of God, as He is the Living Word of God. He had no desire to defy His own revelation, but came to fulfill it and reconcile humanity to Himself and the Father.

He had pretty harsh words for those who void the commands of God through their traditions, as the Roman Catholic Church has often done.

He doesn’t need the “church” to tell Him, or his followers what the word of God means, though we can all learn and be encouraged through fellowship/teaching.

Your premise that the Roman Catholic Church produced the word of God is baloney, though I am grateful for any role Catholics have had in protecting/preserving the Word (even though usually keeping it from the people). I am especially grateful for those, like Wycliffe, whom the Catholics branded a heretic, for making the Word of God available, as it was OBVIOUSLY meant to be, to the common man.


172 posted on 03/05/2010 9:45:31 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver
Frankly you view of Christ's relationship to scripture sounds frighteningly pagan. Christ was no more a slave to the printed word on paper than we are and he was pretty clear on that! Remember His discussion regarding the Sabbath with the Pharisees? His mission, His example was not to show us how to live the law but to free us from the law. We are not a people of the book, that's the Moslems, we are the church and from the Church, the pillar and ground of truth, our Lord gives us the authority to collect sacred tradition in written form into a collected works know as the "Bible". The Scriptures are a tool to help us know, love and serve God in this world so we can be with Him forever in the next.

BTW do you know what "vulgate" means?

175 posted on 03/05/2010 10:08:32 AM PST by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: srweaver
Paslm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Jesus is the Word of God, the Scriptures are the story of Him and His salvation of the world.

Jesus was able to define His life by the Scriptures, because it is the Word of God, as He is the Living Word of God. He had no desire to defy His own revelation, but came to fulfill it and reconcile humanity to Himself and the Father.

Jesus did not define His life by the Scriptures, the Old Testament and the New Testament were defined by Him. Your statement makes it seem like Jesus manipulated His life to fulfill Scripture rather than Scriptures were written because of Jesus.

198 posted on 03/05/2010 12:22:39 PM PST by Jvette
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