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To: Forest Keeper
In other words, a mechanical exercise only for the Reformed.

No, a faithful exercise of love for all believers. How did you get the above from what I said??? :)

From the points that the Commission is commanded, along with the admission that the Gospel does not apply to, or rather affect the salvation of the Reformed reprobate.

The Great Commission was given to the disciples in a micro sense, but by Biblical extension it was given to all believers. Certainly Catholicism recognizes that Biblical commands apply to us today even though they were not technically given to us since we were not physically present when the command was handed out.

Since Jesus spoke specifically to His disciples with this Commission, rather than the entire crowds, we understand it to be specific to the clergy, rather than the population at large, although admittedly all have their part to play.

The focus of the Gospel is Christ and what He did. The focus of the Beatitudes is to describe what a faithful Christian looks like. Apprehension and acceptance of the Gospel will result in conformity with the Beatitudes.

The reverse is true, actually. If one does this, then that will be the reward, is the way that it is written. I believe that you have cause and effect reversed.

That doesn't follow. The indwelling Reformed Holy Spirit IS able to inform the elect of the faith infallibly through the Holy Spirit's infallible word, which includes the Gospel. The Holy Bible is not a book of men about God (there are zillions of those), rather it is a unique book of GOD about God. (And I mean that in accordance with what the CCC says about the Bible.)

Then are you saying that the indwelling Reformed Holy Spirit provides an inerrant interpretation of Scripture (of whichever Bible one happens to be reading), rather than an indwelling knowledge of Scripture in its intended totality?

Your statement on the Reformed reprobates doing better, even though they are going to wind up in hell, by knowing the Gospel is, shall I say, the most unChristian statement that I recall you posting.

None of them should be ignored, just interpreted correctly. :) We just disagree on whether certain actions are conditions to become saved, or are evidence of already having been saved. When we both see "the meek shall inherit the earth" we both say "true".

This passage means "all the meek", not just the Reformed elect meek.

428 posted on 03/04/2010 4:51:48 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; RnMomof7; xzins; blue-duncan
Then are you saying that the indwelling Reformed Holy Spirit provides an inerrant interpretation of Scripture (of whichever Bible one happens to be reading), rather than an indwelling knowledge of Scripture in its intended totality?

I probably do not understand the distinction you are making, but if "indwelling knowledge of scripture" means being able to quote scripture verses one has never heard of before just because the Holy Spirit has indwelt, it does not work that way. Holy Spirit does give correct interpretation of God's word to God's Church of all believers. This is done over the course of a lifetime of sanctification and to some it is given more than to others, and to some the same topics are covered at different times.

Therefore, when you and I disagree on interpretation I am NOT saying that Holy Spirit gives me interpretation, but not to you. As a believer, you get interpretation too. We can still disagree and both be Christians since we are being brought closer to Him on God's timetables and through His methods. While Holy Spirit does not teach error, He DOES allow error to be believed at least for a time, for His own reasons and timing. Surely as Christians we can all say that while Christians we have believed some things before that we now consider to be error. To whatever extent we are now correct on those issues it was Holy Spirit who made that happen.

Your statement on the Reformed reprobates doing better, even though they are going to wind up in hell, by knowing the Gospel is, shall I say, the most unChristian statement that I recall you posting.

I still have no idea why. Even by Catholic theology God already knows who will never accept Him. Among those people do not some lead better and happier lives than others? And among the happier ones, are not many of those also more moral than the less better off people (during their times on earth)? If you agree to all of this then you should find nothing controversial or unChristian about anything I have said on the matter. Could you explain where you are coming from?

FK: When we both see "the meek shall inherit the earth" we both say "true".

This passage means "all the meek", not just the Reformed elect meek.

Are there not many meek people without faith? If you say "Yes" then do all of them go to Heaven? If you say "No", then you really mean "all the meek who have faith". In that case we are saying the same thing.

448 posted on 03/05/2010 2:14:33 AM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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