[HarleyD]

......”a truly sovereign God knows what will happen—without being a cause—and the outcome is still what He wants.”

Not only that, but one might as well toss out any and all miracles. Why would God make an axe head float? Why make the Red Sea part? Why even heal the sick? The fact is our God IS a very intervening God who is directly at work in our lives to effect His plan. The fatalist or determinist is really one who believes that God is not directly involved with man.

[ShadowAce]

I never said He never was a cause, did I? He interacts with men.

What I said was that God is capable of being sovereign without those acts in a universe of free wills. Calvinism says otherwise.