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To: CharlesWayneCT
Scripture is not impossible to understand.

I certainly agree with that. I don't agree with your interpretation, though. Do you claim that your interpretation is infallibly correct?

I Kings 2:
13And Adonias the son of Haggith came to Bethsabee the mother of Solomon. And she said to him: Is thy coming peaceable? he answered: Peaceable. 14And he added: I have a word to speak with thee. She said to him: Speak. And he said: 15Thou knowest that the kingdom was nine, and all Israel had preferred me to be their king: but the kingdom is transferred, and is become my brother's: for it was appointed him by the Lord. 16Now therefore I ask one petition of thee: turn not away my face. And she said to him: Say on. 17And he said: I pray thee speak to king Solomon (for he cannot deny thee any thing) to give me Abisag the Sunamitess to wife. 18And Bethsabee said: Well, I will speak for thee to the king. 19Then Bethsabee came to king Solomon, to speak to him for Adonias: and the king arose to meet her, and bowed to her, and sat down upon his throne: and a throne was set for the king's mother, and she sat on his right hand. 20And she said to him: I desire one small petition of thee, do not put me to confusion. And the king said to her: My mother, ask: for I must not turn away thy face.

Obviously, Solomon ended up rejecting her request ... not because she didn't have the right to make it, but because it was an evil request.

32 posted on 02/24/2010 12:39:05 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I’m certainly not infallible. And certainly there’s nothing to suggest that Bathsheeba didn’t have a right to make a request. I was arguing that the passage didn’t support the view that it was meant to foreshadow Mary interceding for us in Heaven as Queen. If one meant to foreshadow such a thing, why would you choose to do so with a story where the intercessor hears and passes on an evil request — certainly, Mary the Queen of Heaven wouldn’t be expected to ask God for evil on our behalf.

I’m not a big fan of basing doctrine on foreshadowing, although I don’t deny that old testament scripture does contain foreshadowing in some circumstances, clearly it does as Jesus pointed out.

Nor do I deny the use of old testament stories as allegories for profound biblical truths which might otherwise not been found clearly. Again, we have examples from Jesus of that.

But examples within scripture come from people who, without any other biblical reference, would still have been understood to be speaking on God’s behalf — so we aren’t using the old testament allegories to believe their message, their message stands on it’s own.

I have appreciated our conversation.


41 posted on 02/24/2010 1:45:53 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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