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To: Quix

It is your opinion that what the Church believes and teaches about Mary is unBiblical. There is ample exegesis and theology that says otherwise, that is acceptable to Catholics. This very thread seeks to do just that.

No one who rejects the authority of the Church, in fact declares that there is no such authority sanctioned by God, does not then get to claim that authority for themselves.

The Church does not demand that Catholics pray the rosary, or venerate Mary or any other saint. One need never do any of it to be Catholic. The Church declares that Mary and the saints are role models, intercessors in heaven with God and channels of grace and love. The Church encourages a fellowship with Mary and with the saints. There is something in each of their lives that we can emulate in our own Christian journey.

But, there is only one whom the Church insists that we pray to, only one whom the Church declares to be the Christ, only one that the Church follows and worships and knows to be the font of grace and salvation.


240 posted on 05/15/2010 10:39:32 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette

This very thread seeks to do just that.

= = =

And 1,000% FAILS AT IT UTTERLY.


248 posted on 05/15/2010 1:47:56 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Jvette; Quix
The Church declares that Mary and the saints are role models, intercessors in heaven with God and channels of grace and love. The Church encourages a fellowship with Mary and with the saints. There is something in each of their lives that we can emulate in our own Christian journey.

How can you have a role model of someone about whom so little is written? Isn't Jesus enough?

Hebrews 12: 1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

250 posted on 05/15/2010 1:59:42 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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But, there is only one whom the Church insists that we pray to, only one whom the Church declares to be the Christ, only one that the Church follows and worships and knows to be the font of grace and salvation.

WHAT BRAZEN SLIPPERINESS.

No, the Vatican doesn't INSIST on it.

It 'merely' rewards it up one side and down the other.

It 'merely' sell's millions of dollars worth of trinkets to facilitate, aid, support, encourage such blasphemy.

It 'merely' publishes endless pages of documents and books supporting, aiding, encouraging, facilitating such blasphemy.

It 'merely' demonstrates such outrageous favor in behalf of such blasphemy by having everyone from the Pope down demonstrate how to do it with great elaboration, . . . once more for the 10 billionth time . . . WITH FEELING . . .

It 'merely' communicates quite effectively that the MOST WITH-IT--THE MOST--KOSHERLY RIGHTEOUS ROMAN CATHOLICS ET AL ARE IMMERSED in such blasphemy from waking to and during sleep . . . while driving . . . and of course . . . while bead fondling.

Where's that upchuck bucket.

252 posted on 05/15/2010 2:10:01 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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