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To: stfassisi

We all have the natural spirit, which is opposed to the Holy Spirit. God gives us the Spirit of Love after he transforms us. Not before. Before the transformation, we are lovers of self, not lovers of God.


72 posted on 02/23/2010 3:29:52 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: irishtenor
We all have the natural spirit, which is opposed to the Holy Spirit. God gives us the Spirit of Love after he transforms us. Not before. Before the transformation, we are lovers of self, not lovers of God.

Simply not true ,dear brother.

No wonder why Calvin says there are babies in hell,because according to this logic we are not born transformed

76 posted on 02/23/2010 4:00:10 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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