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To: stfassisi
"There is nothing malicious about exposing Calvinism."

To paraphrase Harry Truman; You're not giving them hell, your are just telling the truth and it feels like hell.

350 posted on 02/27/2010 10:18:39 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law; stfassisi
You're not giving them hell, your are just telling the truth and it feels like hell.

Calling a point of view as deeply embedded in anti-Americanism, anti-Conservatism, anti-capitalism and perhaps even anti-semitism "true" shows poor judgement.

And, as should be obvious to anyone who has paid attention to the posts on this thread, John Rao's perspective is deeply embedded in a mire of anti-Americanism, anti-Conservatism, anti-capitalism and (if we are to believe Cardinal Vlk) anti-semitism.

356 posted on 02/27/2010 4:57:33 PM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Natural Law

“”You’re not giving them hell, your are just telling the truth and it feels like hell.””

Calvin is a forerunner to modern religion against the Church Christ founded .He was similar to Mohammed.

From Hilaire Belloc’s “What was the reformation”
http://www.traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/What_was_the_Reformation.html

This man was a Frenchman, Jean Cauvin (or Calvin), the son of an ecclesiastical official, steward and lawyer to the See of Noyon. After the excommunication of his father for embezzlement and the confiscation by his Bishop of much of the income which he, Jean Calvin, himself enjoyed, he, John, set to work - and a mighty work it was.

He was already on the revolutionary side in religion; he would perhaps have been in any case a chief figure among those who were for the destruction of the old religion. But whatever his motive, he was certainly the founder of a new religion. For John Calvin it was who set up a counter-Church.

He proved, if ever any man did, the power of logic the triumph of reason, even when abused, and the victory of intelligence over mere instinct and feeling. He framed a complete new theology, strict and consistent, wherein there was no room for priesthood or sacraments; he launched an attack not anti-clerical, not of a negative kind, but positive, just as Mohammed had done nine hundred years before. He was a true heresiarch, and though his effect in the actual imposition of dogma has not had a much longer life than that of Arianism yet the spiritual mood he created has lasted on into our day. All that is lively and effective in the Protestant temper still derives from John Calvin.

Though the iron Calvinist affirmations (the core of which was an admission of evil into the Divine nature by the permission of but One Will in the universe) have rusted away, yet his vision of a Moloch God remains; and the coincident Calvinist devotion to material success, the Calvinist antagonism to poverty and humility, survive in full strength. Usury would not be eating up the modern world but for Calvin nor, but for Calvin, would men debase themselves to accept inevitable doom; nor, but for Calvin, would Communism be with us as it is today, nor, but for Calvin, would Scientific Monism dominate as it (till recently) did the modern world, killing the doctrine of miracle and paralysing Free Will.


358 posted on 02/28/2010 7:29:50 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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