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To: Mad Dawg

I doubt I fully understand your post. However, I would like to offer 2 points:

1 - I am being neither anti-Catholic nor contrary to scripture to disagree, and claim it was and is, in God’s eyes, a once for all sacrifice, not an eternally ongoing one. That is, after all, a plain reading of the text of Hebrews. I realize Catholics, interpreting in conjunction with if not thru tradition, view it differently. On most of these threads, I consider it a success if I can successfully argue that Protestants are not malicious in our interpretations, but are sincerely trying to obey God.

2 - If you sincerely believe - and I trust you do - that this is a re-presentation of an eternally present sacrifice, then that is between you and God. If it helps you focus on the sacrifice Jesus made for us, and how by being united in death with him you will be united in resurrection as well - then that is between you and God.

I have no doubt the pro & against side of the meat offered to idol debate both felt very passionately about an issue we now would not think twice about. And what did Paul say?

13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. 22The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin. - Romans 14

I obviously disagree quite strongly, but figure at some point it becomes something to bring up, state my case, and let any readers decide - for they too will stand before God someday, and give account, so let it be a good one.

After all, I’m a 25+ year military veteran who ‘starts’ his life as a Christian on the day I let another kid beat me up because I thought God wanted everyone to be pacifists. Trying to stand my ground while getting punched in the jaw, my heart was right if my mind (and jaw) were not. We are allowed to change our minds, or to keep them, and I think the God who knows our hearts will judge our hearts and not just our minds.


99 posted on 02/22/2010 8:35:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers
I doubt I fully understand your post.

That's okay. I doubt if I fully understand it. I'm going to bed and let God sort it out.

Sleep well, brother.

101 posted on 02/22/2010 9:37:25 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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