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To: Cap'n Crunch
My point was Luthers devotion to Mary. Which he kept long after he left/was booted out of, the church.

Which failed to manifest itself in the Lutheran Confessions? Catholics dance around the fact that reformers were Catholic. Outrageous practices of the church at the time of the Reformation and study of the Scriptures made them try to reform the church. Not holding some Catholic beliefs is what would be strange. Those beliefs didn't pass Scriptural muster so they aren't in those reformers' doctrinal efforts. Not that tough. Having never been a Catholic, I am not burdened by that same outlook.

The same devotion that most protestants now reject. And try to dance around. And excuse. And pretend not to see.

Do Protestants reject Mary? Or is it because most don't 'venerate' her the way Catholics do that makes you assume we do? I see, I see, ML was devoted to Mary, so much so he was excommunicated. Mary didn't protect him I guess.

104 posted on 02/20/2010 5:34:27 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

We don’t dance around the reformers being catholic. At the time of the revolt EVERYBODY was catholic.

Many great saints stayed in the church during the counter-reformation.

There was a problem in the church. Some, like Luther, decided to leave and start his own church. Others, like St. Pope Pius V, St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, St. Ignatius Loyola and many others, stayed in the church.

We’ve had some bad presidents of these United States. Because we’ve had some bad presidents, does that make the Constituion a bad document? The United States a bad country?

I don’t think so.


109 posted on 02/20/2010 6:22:10 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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