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To: Saundra Duffy; Vendome

The Plan of Salvation? Jesus died for me. This was Heavenly Father’s plan.

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That is a Christian definition. Not an LDS one and far too simplistic.

LDS plan of salvation...

1) We could not progress without gaining a body, so we decided we wanted to come to earth to become mortal.

2) Because Adam and Eve couldn’t have children they HAD to fall (thus making it a fall upward) so all the spirit babies born to Heavenly Father and Mother could come get bodies.

3) We would be tested here on earth, learn the LDS gospel, take oaths in the temple and progress here on earth.

4) Jesus came to ‘make up’ for anything we couldn’t do, and too upon himself our sins in the garden of gethsemene and died on the cross so he could be resurrected showing we will ALL be resurrected some day. Jesus is our elder brother who taught us that we can all strive to be perfect (moral perfection) here in this life and to be a good example to us.

5) Those who die without the LDS gospel still have an opportunity in spirit prison to accept the LDS gospel and have their ordinances (baptism, endowments, priesthood, sealings) done here on earth by proxy.

6) Those who are faithful in mortality (their second estate) and live good righteous LDS lives get to go to the Celestial Kingdom where they will continue to learn and progress and become gods themselves.

THAT is the LDS plan of salvation. Work, work, work towards ‘godhood’.

Now, if you want to challenge me on this, I would be more than happy to provide documentation that what I type is the actual LDS “plan of salvation”.


98 posted on 02/18/2010 1:33:18 AM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; Saundra Duffy

Wait a minute.....!

Adam and Eve couldn’t have children?

When did this happen? Did Cain kill Abel and where the sons of Adam and Eve?


131 posted on 02/18/2010 8:07:12 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: reaganaut; Saundra Duffy

Jesus is our elder brother? Well where is my inheritance by lineage?

And why did no one ever tell me this before and how do I develop my powers of God, as he had, so I might walk on water, make wine and heal the lame?

Are they dormant powers? Why?


132 posted on 02/18/2010 8:09:59 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: reaganaut

4) Jesus came to ‘make up’ for anything we couldn’t do, and too upon himself our sins in the garden of gethsemene and died on the cross so he could be resurrected showing we will ALL be resurrected some day. Jesus is our elder brother who taught us that we can all strive to be perfect (moral perfection) here in this life and to be a good example to us.

5) Those who die without the LDS gospel still have an opportunity in spirit prison to accept the LDS gospel and have their ordinances (baptism, endowments, priesthood, sealings) done here on earth by proxy.

If Jesus having the power of God vested through him made up for anything I couldn’t do then how is my “Not having the LDS Gospel” even a consideration? How do receive it and what are the signs?

The two statements are at great with each other.


133 posted on 02/18/2010 8:12:29 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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