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To: Pyro7480
Was that Gods choice or mens? Who did God select (hint you would call him the 13th apostle)

God did not tell them to select another or that they had the authority to do so , this like much of the teachings of the Roman church, was the will of man so they could hang onto a non existent tradition

Jesus never indicated or taught there was to be an ongoing apostolate ... or that it was His will that there be one

99 posted on 02/16/2010 8:21:33 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7

“God did not tell them to select another or that they had the authority to do so, this like much of the teachings of the Roman church, was the will of man so they could hang onto a non existent tradition.”

So you consider Judas to be the 12th Apostle then?

“Jesus never indicated or taught there was to be an ongoing apostolate... or that it was His will that there be one”

Actually, yes he did, lets go to Acts 1:20-22, again.

For,” said Peter, “it is written in the book of Psalms,
‘May his place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in it,’ and,
“ ‘May another take his place of leadership.’

Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.”

Couple things to notice here.

1, who is the one saying it? It’s Peter. Peter has been granted an office, and the very first part of Acts confirms that Peter has authority over the other Apostles.

2, we see here that the method by which the office of the apostles was not to be continued.

So you have two choices here, reject the biblical evidence set forth that the Apostles themselves extended their authority, or accept scripture and that the authority of the apostles has been passed down is not an invention of the Catholic church.

The only question is not whether the authority has been passed down, but to whom that the authority has been received.


121 posted on 02/16/2010 12:41:56 PM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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