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To: BrandtMichaels

“Another very simple item that is often over-looked. When did the Catholic church decide on the co-redemptrix role, the hail Mary prayer and her veneration?”

Well first we must understand what co-redemptrix means. Co-redemptrix is no different from co-worker. As she bore Christ into this world, she is the co-redemptrix because she assisted Christ in his work to redeem mankind in the incarnation.

The term originates with St. Irenaeus in the year 200.

“Was it when the church was founded approx 320-330AD - or only recently in the last 2 centuries?”

The church was not founded in 320. Christ founded the church. Why do you believe the RCC was founded in 320? You are aware that the church existed prior to Nicaea?

“How could Peter be the 1st pope for the RCC since he was long dead when it was founded?”

Simply because you are incorrect in asserting that the church was founded in 320.

“Better yet please show the Bible scripture supporting the need for a pope (aka the vicar of Christ)? Do you Catholics even understand what the word vicar means?”

Vicar simply means representative. The use of the terminology with reference to bishops goes back to St. Ignatius who was the Bishop of Antioch as of 80 AD. As the Pope is the Bishop of Rome, he is a Vicar of Christ.

I surmise that you do not properly understand how Catholics employ the term, and that is the source of your error. You need to read the Catechism in order to properly understand our beliefs rather then simply what you believe to be the case.


74 posted on 02/15/2010 3:04:11 PM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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To: BenKenobi

First, all true believers are ‘co-workers’ with Christ yet that reminds me of the bumper sticker ‘If Jesus (or God) is your co-pilot, you’re in the wrong seat.’ Simply put Christ did not need any help with mankinds redemption.

I’ve researched ‘Council of Nicea’ plenty enough.
I’ve seen several different dates attributed to this same decade (320-330AD), but basically this event is seen as when the ‘church’ split into RCC and Eastern Orthodox. I read it to mean that cultural pressure politicized the christian faith causing birth of chritian religions.

Traditions were then slowly woven into the fabric of beliefs.


106 posted on 02/16/2010 11:13:43 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: BenKenobi

Faith being a gift of the holy spirit and God made.

Religion being man-made and allowing of heresy.


108 posted on 02/16/2010 11:30:51 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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