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To: 1000 silverlings
Using your YOPIOS, then tell us when was Mary persecuted?

So, you're denying that she suffered persecution (along with her spouse St. Joseph) when her Son was threatened with death by Herod? You're denying that Simeon prophesized that a sword would pierce her heart?

329 posted on 02/17/2010 1:20:25 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
I thought per the Catholics, Mary suffered no pain birthing Christ

On the other hand, we know from scripture, that Israel did

Isaiah 26

15 You have increased the nation, O LORD, You have increased the nation, You are glorified; You have extended all the borders of the land.

16 O LORD, they sought You in distress; They could only whisper a prayer, Your chastening was upon them.

17 As the pregnant woman approaches the time to give birth, She writhes and cries out in her labor pains, Thus were we before You, O LORD

346 posted on 02/17/2010 1:34:34 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Pyro7480; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
So you're saying that the verse refers to Mary when she fled with Joseph into the desert to avoid Herod?

Must have been some pregnancy

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

368 posted on 02/17/2010 1:58:41 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Pyro7480; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
And finally, we have scripture saying that the church (not Mary) was brought out by God into the wilderness

Acts 7:

He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years. 37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. 38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us

372 posted on 02/17/2010 2:20:56 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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