If this is what the RCC teaches it's easy to understand why RC's worship Mary. She has been elevated to the role God the Father gave to God the Son.
John 1:12 Yet to all who received Him to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God -
Annalex you were gracious enough to admit way back in the early posts that your church's doctrines & dogma about Mary were based on your church's teachings and tradition not Scripture. Trying to defend these non Scriptural beliefs with Scripture just won't work. Every argument tried has been refuted numerous times. Maybe it's time to also admit RC's worship Mary because they want to and don't care what Scripture says, after all your church does not hold Scripture is the rule of your church.
“Maybe it’s time to also admit RC’s worship Mary because they want to and don’t care what Scripture says...”
Maybe it’s time to admit Catholics don’t worship Mary because they kick people out for worshipping Mary.
Freegards
No, I did not. I would say, and I probably said it many times, that the various forms of veneration of Mary and other saints developed when the scripture was already written, and so the scripture does not reflect any instruction to how, exactly, venerate the saints. Further, the lives of even the early saints have not even been lived to the end when the Scripture was written. So, for example, the assumption of Mary is outside of the scripture's chronological scope, although I see a possible reference to it in Apoc.12:14.
I would also happily "admit" to the Catohlic doctrine that the tradition of the Church is the primary rule of faith and the expression of the tradition that the Church chose to put in scripture form is a very important, but not the sole expression of Christian Faith.
We should make arguments based on the Scripture, when they can be made that way. The issue on hand, for exampe, is entirely scriptural: is the woman in Apoc. 12 Mary or not. I never called on any tradition or people's opinions to make this point. All I am doing on this is pointing out two verses in particular, Apoc. 12:5 and Apoc. 12:10. I am making exactly the kind of argument form scripture that Protestants say should be made. In response, however, I do not get anything on the same level. I am asked to interpet the adjacent verses, or I am offered secondary meanings of the passage, or now you simply want to discuss the Catholic doctrine about the scripture in general. I did not get a scriptural explanation of the chapter that does not also fit its apparent primary meaning, that it is Mary. All these secondary things are fine topics, but for a while to focus will have to be this passage and Mary in it, and I, for one, do not need any Catholic tradition to read it correctly. I do see, however, that my opponents start with a dogmatic belief that Mary cannot possibly be in that passage because your belief system does not agree with it, and then they try to make me ignore the plain scripture in favor of their opinions.