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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
Envoy ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII

The Scenario:

Ever have one of those days when you’re feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, you’re feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.

Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see what’s happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”

Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”

On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. You’re feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone you’ve been talking about getting.

Step One:

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: bvm; catholic; mariolatry; moapb; ourlady
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

LOL! Good morning! ;-D


901 posted on 02/19/2010 8:15:58 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
The message is false and deserves to die. No messenger has been harmed.

The question is, why do some folks bear such a white hot hatred for the Catholic Church (A hatred so intense they refuse even to utter her name)?

Alinsky's rules of Roman apologetics.

I didn't know you were Roman.

902 posted on 02/19/2010 8:28:48 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wmfights

“...since everyone else is doing it and their church promotes it.”

“It’s not veneration it’s worship and it is wrong.”

Here’s how you could test your statements. As an experiment, go up to a bishop and tell him you want to join the Catholics so you can worship Mary as divine, like Jesus, because that’s what the Church teaches. If your statements are true he should welcome you with open arms and without reservations, maybe even commenting that you already sound very well catechized in the Catholic faith, as supposedly Catholics worship Mary and the Church promotes this, right? Or do you think something else would happen, and if so, why?

Freegards


903 posted on 02/19/2010 8:30:42 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

You drive a pagan car?

You pagan Romanish pagan papist pig!


904 posted on 02/19/2010 8:31:27 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski; Hegewisch Dupa

And he LIKES it!


905 posted on 02/19/2010 8:33:16 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Petronski
Please don't be offended but when your remarks
are either vapid, inane, insipid or vacuous,
I will just ignore your pings.

906 posted on 02/19/2010 8:35:00 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Petronski; Judith Anne

runs on premium Holy Water, don’t ya know...


907 posted on 02/19/2010 8:36:41 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Ransomed

dang - that is brilliant - nicely done!


908 posted on 02/19/2010 8:39:22 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Please don't be offended but when your remarks are either vapid, inane, insipid or vacuous, I will just ignore your pings.

I don't have that option. All of your posts are vapid, inane, insipid and/or vacuous, but I must correct the false and anti-Catholic information in them, if I am to proceed as a Catholic in good conscience on this forum.

Feel free to ignore my replies to you. I'm correcting your falsehoods for the lurkers' benefit.

909 posted on 02/19/2010 8:39:32 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Please don’t be offended, but when your remarks are silly, pretentious, or empty, I will just ignore them.


910 posted on 02/19/2010 8:40:35 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

As a matter of fact, I can remove your name from the “To:” box if you like, so that you will not be pinged when I correct all the false and viciously anti-Catholic misinformation you post.

Just say the word and you’ll never get a ping from me again.


911 posted on 02/19/2010 8:41:52 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa; Ransomed
dang - that is brilliant - nicely done!

Heh. Just another typical Catholic post. ;-D

912 posted on 02/19/2010 8:42:24 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Petronski
Are you responsible for anyone else's "salvation" ?

You will be responsible for being a False Shepherd preaching
the man made pagan practices of the Roman "church".

Teaching Goddess worship and rejecting Yah'shua's
Holy Feast days as outlined in His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

913 posted on 02/19/2010 8:46:51 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
You will be responsible for being a False Shepherd preaching the man made pagan practices of the Roman "church".

I guess God's laws are your delight except for Exodus 20:16.

I'm not Roman and I teach no practices either man-made or pagan. You seem to take exquisite delight in calumny.

Teaching Goddess worship...

is not something I do.

Hello!...Exodus 20:16!...McFly!

914 posted on 02/19/2010 8:50:12 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
...rejecting Yah'shua's Holy Feast days as outlined in His Holy Word.

Your own personal interpretation of Scripture condemns virtually every Christian on earth.

How exquisitely megalomaniacal...

915 posted on 02/19/2010 8:52:55 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Judith Anne; Hegewisch Dupa; Ransomed
Why in the world would someone who professes faith in the Messiah of the New Testament put the word salvation in quotation marks, like it's some kind of alien or suspect concept?

It's just bizarre.

916 posted on 02/19/2010 8:56:32 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Excellent point; and great use of Exodus 20:16 earlier - even if many act as if they have immunity to that commandment, you are aiding in their “salvation” by reminding them of it - bless ya for it.


917 posted on 02/19/2010 9:00:36 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Judith Anne; Hegewisch Dupa

Thanks! But y’all and others are the real Catholic heavyweights on FR.

Freegards


918 posted on 02/19/2010 9:04:45 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Petronski
Hello!...Exodus 20:16!...McFly

Typical of the Alinsky rules for Roman apologetics.

Worship the ONE Elohim YHvh; not two or three or goddess'

Worhip the ONE YHvH on Shabbat not claim the pagan SUNday

Do not make idols

Show lovingkindness toward those who worship YHvH.

How about all of Exodus 20, not one verses plucked out !

"Go, and make disciples of all the nations in My Name, teaching them to
observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you," [[Matt. xxviii. 19.]]
May you know YHvH
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
919 posted on 02/19/2010 9:04:50 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
The most absurd part, though, is the endless string of anti-Catholic calumnies each followed by "Peace in the name of Yeshua the Messiah."

That has all the heartfelt sincerity of a dimestore greeting card taped to the brick that smashes through your front window.

920 posted on 02/19/2010 9:06:31 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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