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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
Envoy ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: editor-surveyor

It is A definition.

You need a dictionary.


721 posted on 02/18/2010 4:34:33 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Doesn’t require any mind reading, you claim to be a member of the Bar.


722 posted on 02/18/2010 4:34:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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Re: 717. My apology. I should not have made a personal post.


723 posted on 02/18/2010 4:36:23 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

Judith Anne wrote:

“If you were on trial as a Christian, I fail to see where you would be convicted. You seem innocent of the virtues required.”

Well, we’ve taking things up a notch, haven’t we?

How very Roman. Sitting in the judgment seat comes much more naturally to you than the witness stand. If you can’t see the irony in your verdict, no one can open your eyes.


724 posted on 02/18/2010 4:37:01 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Petronski

awwwww, poor baby.


725 posted on 02/18/2010 4:37:53 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Petronski

Show us a definition that omits it.


726 posted on 02/18/2010 4:38:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor
You're claiming I know your false information.

That's mind-reading, as I am not bound by your confused understanding of anything.

727 posted on 02/18/2010 4:38:58 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: 1000 silverlings; mgist; editor-surveyor; RnMomof7; HarleyD
12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Amen, Amen, Amen a thousand times Amen!

My Savior, My God, My Lord Jesus Christ.

Christ is the Rock upon which the church is founded,...

The Rock is also one of the names God is known by. If anyone were to try and take that name for themselves it would be wrong.

728 posted on 02/18/2010 4:39:10 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Petronski

Nothing false!


729 posted on 02/18/2010 4:39:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor

If Mary had no right to refuse the request of Almighty God, then it wasn’t a request, it was rape.

Protestant insistance that Mary was a vessel, and nothing more, is really disgusting. None of them would take the right of refusal away from their daughters, sisters, mothers, but for the Blessed Virgin Mary, who bore Christ, our Savior, within her flesh, she didn’t get a choice?

Please. God Almighty loves ALL of us enough to give us a choice between obedience to His Word or not. But He doesn’t love His Mother that much? ROFL!


730 posted on 02/18/2010 4:40:26 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Marysecretary
awwwww, poor baby.

Yeah, aren't they terrible?

731 posted on 02/18/2010 4:40:39 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: editor-surveyor

We don’t need to get specific.

However, generally speaking . . .

such word parsing,

fact manipulations,

double standard outrages,

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t strategies,

rampant denial,

rampant obsfucation,

rampant deception . . .

on the part of a disturbing number of folks amongst the

Vatican associates/Roman Catholics et al . . .

is very sad to see.

Some of the folks are bright enough to dance increadably fancy steps with words . . .

yet seem to be abjectly stupid in thinking that the average lurker is the least bit fooled.


732 posted on 02/18/2010 4:40:51 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
yet seem to be abjectly stupid in thinking that the average lurker is the least bit fooled.

I am quite certain that NO lurkers are fooled by anything, including your assessments.

733 posted on 02/18/2010 4:43:25 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: editor-surveyor
Nothing false!

Except for the false parts.

734 posted on 02/18/2010 4:44:41 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Belteshazzar; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

QUITE SO.

I . . . . with all the usual hazards of doing so . . .

consciously ASSUMED

that most educated folks knew what you spelled out so clearly and so accurately.

When I get home, I’ll ping some folks to your MOST EXCELLENT elaboration.

It is sadly extremely telling that any rational, educated, honest, “Christian” would play so loose and so denial ridden and soooooo obsfucationally about such facts.

I keep thinking that some Roman Catholic et al/Vatican associate will rise up and take an honrable Biblical stance regarding these issues. Some have come closer IN THE DIRECTION of doing so but have stopped wll short of doing so.

I find THAT also very telling and extremely sad.


735 posted on 02/18/2010 4:46:45 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Pyro7480

I know that Jesus is co-eternal with the Father, but He didn’t have His body prior to being born. He didn’t always have His resurrected body in heaven as He does now. I dicn’t say what I meant very clearly.


736 posted on 02/18/2010 4:47:05 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: editor-surveyor

INDEED.


737 posted on 02/18/2010 4:47:22 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mgist; editor-surveyor
Peter was our first Pope. He died in Rome, and there have historically been an unbroken lineage of Pope's since.

" It is certain that Saint Paul had preached at Rome, and he was probably put to death there about 67 during the reign of Nero. It seems likely, as well, that Saint Peter had visited Rome and had also been martyred there. About Peter's actual position at Rome, however, and about the position of the early Roman bishops, the historical record is silent. What is unquestioned is that by the 3d century the Roman bishops were representing themselves as having succeeded to the primacy that Peter had enjoyed among the apostles and as wielding within the universal church a primacy of authority in doctrinal matters."LINK

There is no clear historic record of Peter as bishop of Rome..

Church Fathers Cyprian, Origen, Cyril, Hilary, Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine,did not apply the "thou are Peter" verse to mean Peter was the pope . .

738 posted on 02/18/2010 4:48:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Petronski

I have documented otherwise

in Vatican Associate/Roman Catholic et al’s

own official documents.

Honesty counts for a lot with God Almighty.


739 posted on 02/18/2010 4:50:10 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Petronski; Gamecock; HarleyD

Evidently you have the illusion that you are fooling someone besides yourself with that line.


740 posted on 02/18/2010 4:51:25 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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