Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII
The Scenario:
Ever have one of those days when youre feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, youre feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.
Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see whats happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bobs Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: Is not this the carpenters son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us? (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isnt it sad, my brothers and sisters?
Pastor Bob goes on to say: Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked! But He said, Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!
On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. Youre feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone youve been talking about getting.
Step One:
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It is A definition.
You need a dictionary.
Doesn’t require any mind reading, you claim to be a member of the Bar.
Re: 717. My apology. I should not have made a personal post.
Judith Anne wrote:
“If you were on trial as a Christian, I fail to see where you would be convicted. You seem innocent of the virtues required.”
Well, we’ve taking things up a notch, haven’t we?
How very Roman. Sitting in the judgment seat comes much more naturally to you than the witness stand. If you can’t see the irony in your verdict, no one can open your eyes.
awwwww, poor baby.
Show us a definition that omits it.
That's mind-reading, as I am not bound by your confused understanding of anything.
Amen, Amen, Amen a thousand times Amen!
My Savior, My God, My Lord Jesus Christ.
Christ is the Rock upon which the church is founded,...
The Rock is also one of the names God is known by. If anyone were to try and take that name for themselves it would be wrong.
Nothing false!
If Mary had no right to refuse the request of Almighty God, then it wasn’t a request, it was rape.
Protestant insistance that Mary was a vessel, and nothing more, is really disgusting. None of them would take the right of refusal away from their daughters, sisters, mothers, but for the Blessed Virgin Mary, who bore Christ, our Savior, within her flesh, she didn’t get a choice?
Please. God Almighty loves ALL of us enough to give us a choice between obedience to His Word or not. But He doesn’t love His Mother that much? ROFL!
Yeah, aren't they terrible?
We don’t need to get specific.
However, generally speaking . . .
such word parsing,
fact manipulations,
double standard outrages,
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t strategies,
rampant denial,
rampant obsfucation,
rampant deception . . .
on the part of a disturbing number of folks amongst the
Vatican associates/Roman Catholics et al . . .
is very sad to see.
Some of the folks are bright enough to dance increadably fancy steps with words . . .
yet seem to be abjectly stupid in thinking that the average lurker is the least bit fooled.
I am quite certain that NO lurkers are fooled by anything, including your assessments.
Except for the false parts.
QUITE SO.
I . . . . with all the usual hazards of doing so . . .
consciously ASSUMED
that most educated folks knew what you spelled out so clearly and so accurately.
When I get home, I’ll ping some folks to your MOST EXCELLENT elaboration.
It is sadly extremely telling that any rational, educated, honest, “Christian” would play so loose and so denial ridden and soooooo obsfucationally about such facts.
I keep thinking that some Roman Catholic et al/Vatican associate will rise up and take an honrable Biblical stance regarding these issues. Some have come closer IN THE DIRECTION of doing so but have stopped wll short of doing so.
I find THAT also very telling and extremely sad.
I know that Jesus is co-eternal with the Father, but He didn’t have His body prior to being born. He didn’t always have His resurrected body in heaven as He does now. I dicn’t say what I meant very clearly.
INDEED.
" It is certain that Saint Paul had preached at Rome, and he was probably put to death there about 67 during the reign of Nero. It seems likely, as well, that Saint Peter had visited Rome and had also been martyred there. About Peter's actual position at Rome, however, and about the position of the early Roman bishops, the historical record is silent. What is unquestioned is that by the 3d century the Roman bishops were representing themselves as having succeeded to the primacy that Peter had enjoyed among the apostles and as wielding within the universal church a primacy of authority in doctrinal matters."LINK
There is no clear historic record of Peter as bishop of Rome..
Church Fathers Cyprian, Origen, Cyril, Hilary, Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine,did not apply the "thou are Peter" verse to mean Peter was the pope . .
I have documented otherwise
in Vatican Associate/Roman Catholic et al’s
own official documents.
Honesty counts for a lot with God Almighty.
Evidently you have the illusion that you are fooling someone besides yourself with that line.
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