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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
Envoy ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII

The Scenario:

Ever have one of those days when you’re feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, you’re feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.

Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see what’s happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”

Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”

On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. You’re feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone you’ve been talking about getting.

Step One:

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: bvm; catholic; mariolatry; moapb; ourlady
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To: 1000 silverlings

You on on today !!


341 posted on 02/17/2010 1:29:32 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Amen


342 posted on 02/17/2010 1:30:12 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: Petronski

Patronski,
Do you have a complex?


343 posted on 02/17/2010 1:32:29 PM PST by fatboy
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To: fatboy
Sola Scriptura is a false tradition of men.
344 posted on 02/17/2010 1:32:34 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: fatboy
Do you have a complex?

No, just a normal small-town house, yard and driveway.

Why, are you selling chainlink fencing and concertina wire?

345 posted on 02/17/2010 1:34:09 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Pyro7480; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
I thought per the Catholics, Mary suffered no pain birthing Christ

On the other hand, we know from scripture, that Israel did

Isaiah 26

15 You have increased the nation, O LORD, You have increased the nation, You are glorified; You have extended all the borders of the land.

16 O LORD, they sought You in distress; They could only whisper a prayer, Your chastening was upon them.

17 As the pregnant woman approaches the time to give birth, She writhes and cries out in her labor pains, Thus were we before You, O LORD

346 posted on 02/17/2010 1:34:34 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: RnMomof7

lol, blazing bibles


347 posted on 02/17/2010 1:35:40 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Petronski

Petronski,
Son, I’m asking you to tell me plainly, is it a fool who places his faith and trust in the words of the Bible as the final authority of faith and morals? Simple question, yes or no.


348 posted on 02/17/2010 1:36:08 PM PST by fatboy
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To: fatboy

I’m not your son.


349 posted on 02/17/2010 1:37:38 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
The false doctrine of men insisting we must not ask the Saints in Heaven to pray for us is a spiritually dangerous thing.

Isaiah 8:19 When men tell you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?

1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 But I am not surprised! Even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. So it is no wonder his servants can also do it by pretending to be godly ministers. In the end they will get every bit of punishment their wicked deeds deserve.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

350 posted on 02/17/2010 1:38:13 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: Petronski

And I’m not your fool.


351 posted on 02/17/2010 1:38:15 PM PST by fatboy
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To: 1000 silverlings
I thought per the Catholics, Mary suffered no pain birthing Christ

There is no definitive Catholic teaching on how Mary gave birth to Our Lord, except that she was a virgin before, during, and after she gave birth.

352 posted on 02/17/2010 1:39:12 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Petronski
You like making that demand, but you have no Scriptural mandate to do so. Unless, that is, you can prove sola Scriptura is mandated by Scripture

No scripture on that right..another whole cloth belief??

353 posted on 02/17/2010 1:39:29 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: fatboy
And I’m not your fool.

Thank you for clarifying but, uh, who claimed you were?

354 posted on 02/17/2010 1:40:07 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

What was the role of Christ miracles


355 posted on 02/17/2010 1:40:17 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7
I don't get into the business of proving negatives.

You want me to observe sola Scriptura, you'd better be able to prove it on its own terms: from Scripture.

356 posted on 02/17/2010 1:41:34 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RnMomof7

They’re not dead.


357 posted on 02/17/2010 1:42:03 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RnMomof7
1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

This is an admonition against the evils of Calvinism.

358 posted on 02/17/2010 1:43:13 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RnMomof7

Could you form a sentence please?


359 posted on 02/17/2010 1:43:59 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Key word for you sir is “uh”
But your not answering my yes or no question, you rather throw out concertina wire inuendo. Reasons unknown, but suspicions abound.


360 posted on 02/17/2010 1:44:13 PM PST by fatboy
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