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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
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| Tim Staples
Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: wagglebee
Perhaps we’re being quoted the “JustforCatholics” answer.
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posted on
02/19/2010 12:42:15 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: wagglebee; Judith Anne
Opps..you are right.. I used to know that..LOL ( i had a baby around the tie oof that holy day.. )...But the” Protestant me “thinks of it as referring to the conception of Jesus..
To: UriÂ’el-2012; Petronski
You are joining Pet in attempting to put words in my mouth. Nonsense, I have plenty of examples of your denial of the Holy Trinity.
You will most likely will get away with it as it would appear that the RM provides cover for members of the Roman "church".
Here's the reality, on any given day I can go on to multiple threads and be incorrectly told what Catholics believe. However, when I say that you deny the Trinity, it is a statement of fact based on multiple posts you've made.
But, to be fair, if you will say that you DO accept the Holy Trinity as fact, I will immediately apologize and never bring it up again. Your call.
You know that I believe that Jesus the Christ is G-d The ONE and only YHvH.
Then what do you believe of God the Father and the Holy Spirit?
Some members of the Roman "church" formally trained in theology state that we can ignore the old god because he is mean and nasty and not warm and cuddly.
Since it's established that what you refer to as the Roman "church" also includes Baptists, Calvinists, Methodists, Pentecostals and etc., I wouldn't begin to know which heretic you refer to.
1,103
posted on
02/19/2010 12:44:50 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: RnMomof7; Judith Anne
But the Protestant me thinks of it as referring to the conception of Jesus.. Now it makes even less sense, are you saying that you DON'T believe that the Blessed Mother conceived our Lord in her womb through the Power of the Holy Spirit?
1,104
posted on
02/19/2010 12:48:47 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: John Leland 1789
We are of the all generations that call Mary blessed when we read the New Testament and see how God highly favored her to be the instrument and vessel through which unto us a child is born,; in the flesh of that child (1 Tim. 3:16) the Son is given to rule the world in righteousness (Isaiah 9:6 and context). Catholics pronounce that and treat it as an adjective..Mary herself " blessed" as if blessed was a unique feature of her spiritually...Actually the meaning is highly favored
In this verse in question it is a verb, not an adjective
Tense:
Perfect meaning it was an act that did not need to be repeated
Voice: Passive...in other words she had no part of the action..it was done to her
All women call her blessed because they would all consider it a blessing to have such an honor
To: wagglebee
Without sex.. it ( the incarnation) was immaculate
To: wagglebee; Religion Moderator
Do you think that Catholics should be prohibited from being moderators? (For the record, I have no clue whether any moderators are or ever have been Catholic.)***********************
Interesting question. How do we know that the Religion Moderator is not an atheist?
Does it really matter? One can study religion without being of any faith. One can moderate a forum without faith.
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posted on
02/19/2010 12:59:16 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wagglebee
The Immaculate Conception has NEVER referred to anything other than the conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary. (Though you will often hear it in movies incorrectly used to refer to the Incarnation and Virgin Birth.) Exactly. The question looked like a setup, until I realized the poster did not appear to have the answer to her own question.
To: RnMomof7
“Immaculate” refers to being free from the stain of sin, so in that sense it was certainly immaculate. However, the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Mother DID include all of the elements of a normal conception, she was just protected from the stain of sin (and this was because of God’s Power alone).
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posted on
02/19/2010 1:01:21 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: trisham; Religion Moderator
Interesting question. How do we know that the Religion Moderator is not an atheist? Now, now, I have it on good authority that the Religion Moderator is a Druid who dances naked under full moons and drinks sheep blood.
1,110
posted on
02/19/2010 1:03:20 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee; RnMomof7
“she was just protected from the stain of sin”
How is the stain of sin transmitted and how was she protected from it?
1,111
posted on
02/19/2010 1:04:20 PM PST
by
the_conscience
(We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
To: mgist
Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus (Does her offspring include all Christians, or just Catholics?)The woman is Israel and it was and is her seed that Satan still makes war against ...
Mary never grew eagles wins and flew off
To: Quix; Judith Anne
Shock. I agree with you fairly wholesale about that.me too
To: wagglebee; Religion Moderator
Now, now, I have it on good authority that the Religion Moderator is a Druid who dances naked under full moons and drinks sheep blood.************************
Nobody's perfect!
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posted on
02/19/2010 1:07:24 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wagglebee
Can the "invisible church of the elect" be seen from outer space?By God:)
To: Quix
I believe the church is ingrafted to Israel based on Pauls teachings .. But I think the image is israel
To: RnMomof7; mgist; the_conscience; Quix; wmfights
Funny hermeneutics from the side that have Mary in their OPIOS. "Mary" flees on eagles wings into the desert, after the resurrection. Not to mention the 3 and one half year foetus. But what's a little thing like getting the correct interpretation, maybe that's what the magi told them
1,117
posted on
02/19/2010 1:11:46 PM PST
by
1000 silverlings
(everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
To: RnMomof7
***A sinless Mary would not have a human nature, but a divine one.***
Using your analogy, Adam and Eve had a divine nature before the fall.
1,118
posted on
02/19/2010 1:11:56 PM PST
by
nanetteclaret
(Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
To: Marysecretary
Can the "invisible church of the elect" be seen from outer space?Sadder still they think we we hate them because we do not venerate her or the pope. I do not hate anyone ...
To: trisham; Religion Moderator
Nobody's perfect! I'm pretty sure that it's just tomato juice in a bottle labeled sheep blood!
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posted on
02/19/2010 1:16:45 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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