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To: ThomasSawyer
"LGBT persons would be better off joining a church more freindly and accepting of them such as the MCC or Unitarian churches, rather than trying to get get the more conservative traditional-family oriented churches to accept them."

Spiritually, it would be better for them to accept Christ as their personal savior and repent. Christ welcomes all that desire to come to him and repent of their sin. He saved the adultress from stoning, but then told her to go and sin no more. For those who define themselves by their sexual choices, it's not about acceptance of them as a person. It's about acceptance of their sinful lifestyle. They want all Christian churches to discard biblical truths so as to suit their choices regarding sexual activity. However, true bible-based churches will not even discard biblical truths when it comes to heterosexuals in the case extra-marital heterosexual relations.

I really don't mean to argue which religious view is correct. What I was referring to is that once people have their set beliefs that they will not budge on - such as that God loves and accepts all people whether gay or straight (in he case of gays who attend gay-friendly churches), it is better to respect others' differences of opinion and stick to a church that reflects one's beliefs rather than trying to change other people's churches.

Some gays / LBGT people seem to be at war with conservative Christianity due to deep-seated issues over having been bullied and beaten up and gotten no sympathy for it when they were a young person, and now they are hyper-sensitive and out to even the score against larger "straight" society.

The gay lobby groups (HRC, for example) make a lot money in the way of donations feeding into this wanting to get back at straight society by getting in their faces and getting laws passed that the people who hate them will have to obey or be in violation of the law.

The psychologically healthier approach I think would be to just let what happened in the past go, don't get upset knowing that you cannot make everyone love and accept you, and find a safe space with accepting people to worship and hang out with.

25 posted on 02/13/2010 5:17:51 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
"I really don't mean to argue which religious view is correct. What I was referring to is that once people have their set beliefs that they will not budge on - such as that God loves and accepts all people whether gay or straight (in he case of gays who attend gay-friendly churches), it is better to respect others' differences of opinion and stick to a church that reflects one's beliefs rather than trying to change other people's churches. Some gays / LBGT people seem to be at war with conservative Christianity due to deep-seated issues over having been bullied and beaten up and gotten no sympathy for it when they were a young person, and now they are hyper-sensitive and out to even the score against larger "straight" society. The gay lobby groups (HRC, for example) make a lot money in the way of donations feeding into this wanting to get back at straight society by getting in their faces and getting laws passed that the people who hate them will have to obey or be in violation of the law. The psychologically healthier approach I think would be to just let what happened in the past go, don't get upset knowing that you cannot make everyone love and accept you, and find a safe space with accepting people to worship and hang out with."

I don't know that you and I are much in disagreement. I just think we're approaching this in two different ways. A point I am trying to make is that it's not about welcoming them and acceptance of them as a person. I have never been to a church where you had to check in at the front door with someone to make sure you were holy enough to enter in. If that were the case, a lot of us wouldn't have made it past the front door. Yet the militant LGBT groups attempt to set up this straw man that churches aren't welcoming to them as if there is some litmus test to prevent them from walking through the front door, sitting in a pew, and receiving the word of God. As a result, hurches that have traded in the true gospel for a socially acceptable gospel go right along and hang the rainbow banner (a symbol of a promise from God which the LGBT groups have chosen to defile) saying "All Are Welcome" as if to say 'we're not like all those hateful and intolerant conservative Christian churches'. The truth is, it's not the churches that are unwelcoming to LGBT person's but LGBT person's who are unwelcoming to the Word of God.
35 posted on 02/13/2010 8:34:47 AM PST by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

RE: “such as that God loves and accepts all people whether gay or straight”

You seem to hold a common misconception caused by leftist propoganda. People are not defined by thier actions e.g. God hates the sin but loves the sinner.

What is the issue here is not acceptance of people but acceptance of homosexual sex.

Maybe next time if you phrased your commentary more accurately you would realize how absurd it is. e.g. to borrow your hrase and insert some reality: “such as that God loves and accepts all sexual activities wheter heterosexual among man and wife or homsexual between two people of the same sex”...

Sounds pretty dumb doesn’t it. That is not the God I know...


56 posted on 02/13/2010 11:09:02 PM PST by DBeers ( †)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
The psychologically healthier approach I think...

Homosexuality is not psychologically healthy to begin with. They want to push their perversion on others as a way to try to justify what their entire lives give testimony to as wrong. They want to silence and demonize all who remind them that their behavior is perverse as a means of drowning out their own consciences. They desperately must make us wrong because if we are right then that means that they are behaving sinfully. When one is being sinful it can be easy for the darkened soul to become full of hate.

61 posted on 02/14/2010 1:40:42 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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