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To: Vigilanteman; colorcountry

You’re ill-informed post regarding CC speaks volumes of you though.

But I won’t stoop to calling you a “liar”.

Attack the messenger, not the message.

Marginalize the messenger by calling them a “hater”, put them on the defensive, get them off the topic and into the mode of having to defend themselves instead of being able to get their message out.


9 posted on 02/12/2010 8:46:11 AM PST by SZonian (I see people who claim they are victims of "hatred", Alinsky's tactics are alive and well on FR.)
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To: SZonian

The play book.

Summarized Mormon apologetic strategies as follows:

• Deny - until the facts overwhelm.
• Attack - the sources, the critic, anything to change the subject of
discussion.
• Use the “Personal Defence” – A clever variation on “Attack” which
shifts the focus to the hard-done-by apologist and away from the
substance of the debate. The apologist might all but make up an
attack against himself, for example, and use attack language toward
himself, as if the critic had said it, and then shift into a Personal
Defence.
• Accept and Reject - essentially the “so what” defence, regardless of
the merit of the evidence rejected.
• Assert Victory - this includes “victory” over the factual information that
was never reasonably refuted.
• Refuse Re-engagement - once victory is declared, continued debate
can be declared irrelevant.
• Emphasize Feelings – bear testimony based on feelings. This shifts the
argument out of the objective into the subjective. Facts become
relative to perspective. There can be no rational argument on this
basis.


13 posted on 02/12/2010 8:52:48 AM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: SZonian
I agree with you that calling someone a hater is just a way to shut them up or put them down.. I don't hate any religion but do have a healthy distrust of muslims that want to cut off my head...That's the only religion that I even come close to hating...they are all nut cases. Well maybe only 99% of them are nut cases. I cannot understand why so much Mormon bashing goes on...I don't know of any Mormon in this day and age that want to do harm to me or America. We are all entitled to our are own beliefs. (except murderous muslims and then its self defense)
44 posted on 02/12/2010 9:49:15 AM PST by goat granny
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